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How dad changed our family car to left-hand drive — Ayodele Awojobi’s son

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Kofoworola, one of the children of the late inventor, activist and lecturer, Prof. Ayodele Awojobi, talks about his father’s life and academic feats with GBENGA ADENIJI

Please briefly tell us about yourself.

I am Kofoworola Awojobi. I practise as a medical doctor. I am the third of the five children of Prof. Ayodele Awojobi’s nuclear family.

Can you recall some of the memories of your growing up with your father?

My father was homely. He was a quiet person. There was some warmth that emanated from him and all the children shared the mutual feeling. Despite being a quiet person, there was that affection that radiated from him to people around. On the intellectual side, he was always telling us to be studious. He often told us to ‘condense’ our school notes so that we could read up the topics easily during the period of examination. I recall that ‘condense’ was the word he used when advising us to make our school notes compact.

Did he spend time with his family?

My father took time out to take us out as a family. I remember that we used to patronise some five star hotels to eat breakfast. The waiters already knew our seven-seater table and would usher us in whenever we visited any of the hotels. Sometimes, we could go to the hotels to eat lunch or dinner. He also took us to the Lagos bar beach and lagoon club. We would play games while he whiled away the time with some of his colleagues from the University of Lagos. We also visited relations in the family car.

Why didn’t you study engineering like your father?

My father did not influence any of us to make certain career choices. I lost him before it was time to make up my mind on the course to study. Hence, I ended up choosing the course I wanted to study myself. Two of my siblings however studied engineering. One studied mechanical engineering while the other read chemical engineering.

What was his method of disciplining any of his children who misbehaved?

I cannot remember anytime my father used either the cane or the whip on any of us. He could use a slipper to show he was annoyed about what any of us did, but he did not use the cane or the whip. He did not also make use of corporal punishment.

What kind of preferential treatment did you enjoy in school by virtue of your father’s academic prowess?

I did not enjoy any preferential treatment when I was in the university because of my father’s academic prowess as you put it. The only thing I ‘enjoyed’ as a student was the reaction that people always showed whenever I introduced myself followed by an enquiry Iike, ‘Are you related to Prof. Ayodele Awojobi?’ It happened many times when I was in school. There was really no preferential treatment. Rather than that, there was pressure on me to exhibit the traits of a genius my father was known for.

Did your father show any expectation that his children should exhibit his academic brilliance while in school?

If my father had any expectation regarding his children exhibiting his academic brilliance, it was in the area of ensuring that we studied hard. He was always asking us to condense our school notes so that we could do well in examinations. His idea of condensing our school notes was to highlight the key points in any topic to readable form. He bought us some exercise books for that purpose. There was no formal arrangement to ensure that I did well in school, it was assumed that I would get by academically without undue stress. I did not feel any challenges in school because my father was a genius. I would not say I felt pressured in school for having an intellectually famous father. I think I was able to handle things well while I was a student.

Were you motivated personally to surpass his academic feats while studying?

I did not go out of my way to study. I recall that I hated reading as a child. I would delay reading till when examinations approached. But I knew that whenever I thought of his brilliance I used to arrogantly tell myself that I could match it. I did well in Mathematics and other calculation subjects and my elder brother always told me that I could do well.

Beyond that, I think everybody is a potential academic genius. Everybody is a potential Prof. Ayodele Awojobi once helped with the right milieu conducive to learning. My father was a bookworm. My father’s uncle told us that he liked reading even as child. Everybody is a potential Albert Einstein given the proper foundation from childhood.

What was the reaction of his family when he took to activism?

There was no need for reaction of any sort because it was a progression of events; things were just unfolding. My father was close to Chief Obafemi Awolowo. He loved the late sage. In fact, Chief Awolowo wrote the foreword to many of my father’s academic publications. So, we knew they had an affiliation. My father also loved the Lateef Jakande education policy. He felt government had no reason not to provide for the people. As an educator, he wanted a system that worked because he was a beneficiary of such a system. Thus, it was a natural course for him to desire good governance. It was not that he woke up one day and took to activism.

Tell us about his celebrated conversion of the steering wheel of a vehicle from right-hand to left-hand drive.

I recall that it was an army-green Opel Rekord. The vehicle’s steering wheel was initially a right-hand drive. He thought of converting the steering wheel to a left-hand drive since the country had switched to the left-hand traffic drive at that time. Being a mechanical engineer, he saw the need to do the conversion and it became something that was celebrated in the newspapers. I remember that the vehicle was a family car and I noticed that its steering had become a left-hand drive when he was taking us out in it after the conversion. The second was the Autonov 1 which is an army-type vehicle bought through one of his friends. He fused accelerator, gear, clutch and other vehicle parts in it to generate another steering wheel at the vehicle’s back side. It was an interesting invention. There was a central revolving chair he attached to the vehicle such that one could be driving in an opposite direction and revolved the chair to another side to continue driving in that direction. I recall that he drove us in it on UNILAG campus and people came out to see it. It was very noisy and slow whenever he drove it.

Your father had many nicknames including ‘Dead Easy.’ Did he tell you why he was so named?

He loved teaching people not only his students but anybody who had contact with him. Teaching was something he really enjoyed doing. He also liked making topics on engineering simpler. He would simplify formulae so that all students could understand what he was explaining. So, after his explanation of any topic or having solved any mathematical problems, he would say ‘Dead Easy.’ That was to capture how simple the topic was. It was from there that his students and many others started calling him ‘Dead Easy.’ Each time he was walking on campus and students shouted ‘Dead Easy,’ we would know that our father was the one passing.

How did he tackle disagreements with his wife?

As an intellectual man that he was, he found ways to wriggle his ways out of any disagreements. From the distance that we observed as children, he had a way of calming situations. He was a gentle and calm man.

What ideals have you imbibed from him?

I have learnt his thoughtful ways. He would prefer quality solutions to problems. I have imbibed this from him. Also, his calm nature is another ideal I have learnt.

How did he relax?

My father enjoyed stretching out on his bed or a chair reading the newspapers. He could take garri Ijebu. Whoever prepared the garri must also ensure that a bit of lime juice was added with ice cubes. At times, he could be reciting lines from famous plays like that of William Shakespeare’s. He could also sing some old tunes. He was a literary and debating pupil while in the secondary school. He was also active in the drama class.

How did he like to dress?

When going to work, he wore dark or light coloured suit. Sometimes, he could complement his dressing with a bow tie. That was how he always dressed to the office. For social events, he liked wearing buba and sokoto with an agbada to match (native attire).

What was his favourite meal?

Like I said earlier, he liked taking garri ijebu. He would prefer it to be soaked with lime juice or milk. He liked to say, ‘Go and make me my garri,’ whenever he was at home. He also liked bokoto (cow leg).

How sociable was he?

My father never went out of his way to socialise. He was sociable in a private way. He socialised by engaging in intellectual discourse with his friends with some jokes. That was the kind of man he was.

How close were you to him?

He was a kind and quiet father. I was like his right-hand man among his children may be because I was very playful. I would be the last person to sleep and whenever he was coming home late, he was sure I would be awake to open the door for him.

Was he involved in any sports?

Yes, when he was young, he was involved in badminton, table tennis and athletics.

What was his normal daily schedule?

When we were young, he would drive us to school. He would leave home before 7pm to go to school. He often returned home late.

How did he die?

He had a protracted illness. He was managed by some doctors before his death. I would not say I know the exact cause of his death. Perhaps, I am talking as a medical doctor. If someone dies, there is an exact medical cause of the death traceable to a chain of events which one can put together to say, ‘this is the primary cause of the death and this is the secondary cause of the death.’ I cannot really say the exact cause of his death because I was young then.

Where were you when he died?

I was at home when he breathed his last. We are coping as a family after his death. But it was tough for a while especially as my mother took up the role of the breadwinner after his death. It was not long after she retired as a nurse that the incident occurred.

Where is your mum now?

She is in Lagos.

How has his name opened doors for you?

My father’s name has not opened any doors for me. His name will open doors if I go out of my way to announce that I am one of his children. By nature, I am conservative. I have never gone to anybody to use his name to seek favours.

Are there plans by his family to organise a memorial event 30 years after his demise?

As a nuclear family, I do not think there are plans to organise any memorial event to commemorate 30 years of my father’s death. I think each of us is busy with individual struggles. If we are all relaxed, have time and the wherewithal, we could have planned for it. We are too busy looking for money to pay the school fees of our children. Is this not an irony? My salary probably cannot pay the tuition of a child per term.

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My mum is stricter than dad — Oga Bello’s son

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Femi, son of veteran Nollywood actor, Adebayo Salami (aka Oga Bello), talks about his father’s acting career with GBENGA ADENIJI

Can you please introduce yourself?

I am Femi Adebayo born into the family of Adebayo Salami popularly called Oga Bello. I studied Law at the University of llorin and earned a Master’s degree in Law at the University of Ibadan. I hail from Ilorin in Kwara State. I am married and have children. I am best described as an actor and a lawyer.

Didn’t your father encourage you to study Acting instead of Law since you seem to enjoy the former?

I have always wanted to be a lawyer. My father always told us when we were young that he would support us on any career choices we made. Since I decided I was going to study Law, he was very supportive. He gave me all the needed support and encouragement. My passion for acting started when I kept seeing him on television while I was young. At a point, I felt like acting too. When he noticed my interest in acting, he did not discourage me. Rather, he encouraged my interest in the two careers. My father did not force any career on any of his children. He left us to study the courses we showed interest in and have capacity for. I must also say that he influenced me indirectly as an actor because if I had not enjoyed his acting style while I was growing up, there was no way I could have showed interest in acting.

How do you feel each time you feature in a movie with him?

The father-son relationship ends the moment we are on set. We instantly become professional colleagues and have to creatively interpret our roles. That notwithstanding, I always have the confidence that whenever I am on location with him, the movie being produced at that time cannot be less qualitative. This is because of his experience as an actor and the fact that I learn from him. Whenever we are on set, it is a different thing because acting is make-believe and we have to make the audience have a feel of reality. It is no more a father-son relationship but purely on professional basis. We have featured together in many movies. I recall that I played the role of a thief who robbed him in one of the films we acted in together. We featured together in movies such as Alade Owala, Jelili and Sonto Alapata among many others.

Were you opportune to receive tutelage under Ojo Ladipo (Baba Mero) who was your father’s boss and mentor?

I was not opportune to be trained by him. I was extremely young when he died.

How many wives does your father have?

My father has two wives.

Some people believe that his family is large. What is your view about this?

God will continue to enlarge our family coast. My father is blessed with both male and female children who continually make him proud in their chosen careers. I guess you are aware that a Yoruba adage says, A kin ka omo fun olomo. (one does not count the number of children a man has). So, I will not want to say the exact number of my father’s children. But I can tell you that he has about 12 children who are graduates.

How does he handle misunderstanding with his wives?

It is only my father that can answer that question.

How does he relax if he is not on location?

My father stays with his family at home. He does not like going out if there is no genuine reason to do so. I remember when I was still staying with him, he was always indoors whenever he had no movie shooting to do. He would take us out in his car to visit some places as a family.

Where were the places he used to take his family to for relaxation?

He used to take us to Amusement Park in Lagos during Christmas celebrations. We would ride horses and have a great fun. I remember that vividly. He would ensure we enjoyed ourselves to satisfaction. We had almost everything we wanted anytime he took us out.

What is his favourite meal? 

He likes amala and bush meat. During the outbreak of the Ebola Virus Disease in Nigeria, I called him and he started laughing because he already knew what I wanted to say. I told him to be careful eating bush meat with its link with the virus.

Did he visit you while you were in the university?

Yes, he visited me when I was in the university many times. I always felt on top of the world each time he visited. It was always a wonderful time for me on campus because many people who recognised him also expressed curiosity to know who he came to see.

When they discovered that he came to visit you, did colleagues and lecturers alike give you preferential treatment?

There was no preferential treatment extended to me by classmates or lecturers on account of who my father is. If anything, my father’s visits only gave me recognition in school. My lecturers were strict and besides, there are regulations set by the school authorities for all students. I did my first movie when I was in part-one, hence my father’s visit further boosted my profile and popularity as a student.

What kind of father is he?

My father is a highly principled and approachable man. He is a very wonderful man. He whistles to call my mother or to get her attention. They have maintained that method before I was born. If anyone of us tries to imitate him by whistling, my mother will know and will not answer. I think it is because she is familiar with his style of whistling to her.

How did he punish any of his children who misbehaved?

He neither used the cane nor the whip on any of us. We always tried not to offend him. We were often sober and remorseful whenever he expressed disappointment over any wrongdoing or told us not to talk to him for the moment. My mother was the one who used the cane.

Who are his friends?

He has many friends. They cut across all disciplines but there are no politicians among his friends. There are some of his friends that they have been together since his childhood days.

Why are there no politicians among them?

(Laughs) I really do not know.

What kind of songs does he listen to?

My father enjoys the songs of Ayinde Barrister, Ayinla Omowura, Yusuf Olatunji and Fela.

What is his preferred mode of dressing?

He dresses based on the occasion he is attending. But most times, he wears native attire.

What ideals have your father taught you?

The first and major one is to be good to people regardless of their status, religion or ethnic leanings. He always says it pays to be good to fellow human beings. I have imbibed this and I try to be good to anybody I encounter in my daily interactions. He has also taught me patience and honesty. These are the core values I appreciate in him and do thank him for instilling them in me. I am also trying to make sure those close to me exhibit same to people around them.

Since your father has two wives as you said earlier, are you also going to take after him in that regard?

I don’t think so.

Why don’t you think so?

It is not my wish.

How has your father’s name assisted you when people know you are related to him?

There are several of such instances. He is a very good man. Even before I started acting, people often identified thus, ‘’Omo oga Bello niyen o’’ (That is the son of Oga Bello) I get special attention in many areas. When he was young, he was nicknamed Oba because they said he has traits of a leader. If anybody calls him by the appellation, he will know that the person must have known him from childhood.

What is his favourite drink?

My father neither drinks nor smokes.

What kind of car does he like?

He likes to ride any brand of Toyota.

How sociable is he?

When one considers the nature of what he does, he should have no reason not to go out and socialise. But he always tries to select the kind of social gatherings he attends. He also tries to enjoy himself in moderation whenever the need arises. He is not the kind of person one finds at every social event except it is vital for him to attend.

What image do you think your father has been able to make in Nollywood?

To the glory of God, he has been able to distinguish himself in the industry. When he celebrated his 50 years on stage, there were accolades from people and colleagues who have interacted with him.

How do you feel being his son?

I feel proud and honoured. It is my prayer that people will speak positive things about me more than they speak about my father.

Are there things you think people expect from you as his son?

There are some people who think that having served my father, they should reap the gains from me. I try to be diplomatic in my approach. The ones that I can handle I do and those that I cannot, I stay away from.

What pieces of advice does he constantly give you?

Most times, he always tells me to remain respectful as I have been. My father appreciates the fact that I am respectful but he constantly reminds me to remain so. He also advises me to be tolerant of people and be honest in whatever I do. I do not forget any of them. I continually remember them daily.

Did he tell you how he came about the nickname, Oga Bello?

He did not tell me because I did not ask him. It is an appellation which I think he earned on stage.

Which of his movies do you like most and why do you like it?

I like the movie, Emi Abata, which he produced about 10 years ago. In Yoruba, Emi Abata literally means ‘For the sake of someone.’ For example, one can say because of Bello, we give Femi the opportunity to do this thing. I featured in that movie too. I like the movie so much because it also mirrors my own experiences in life because I am enjoying my father’s goodwill.

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Dad would have loved to be Lagos governor — Adeniran Ogunsanya’s daughter

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Adenrele, a daughter of the late politician, Adeniran Ogunsanya, and a former Secretary to the Lagos State Government, tells ARUKAINO UMUKORO about her father’s legacy

Please, tell us about yourself.

My name is Princess Adenrele Oyebola-Adeniran-Ogunsanya. I am the first child of (the late) Otunba Adeniran Ogunsanya.

How was growing up with your dad?

Growing up in our house was a marvelous experience. So many great men came to our house; Adegoke Adelabu, Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe, Sam Mbadiwe, (the late Chief Obafemi) Awolowo, and so on. That shows you how they were at that time. They were not enemies because they belonged to different political parties. Also, my dad was full of jokes and he liked to laugh a lot. We used to joke together and we were always laughing in the car. Today, we still laugh at his jokes when we remember something funny he said at one time or the other that had come to pass.

How does it feel to be the daughter of such a famous man?

The man himself, without the greatness, was such a wonderful person. I will always be grateful to God for him. I say to people, if I would come in another life, I would like to return as my father’s daughter.

What are some of the values you learnt from him?

One of the values is to love people and treat them as equals. When we were children, we weren’t allowed to call our maids or house helps who were older than us by their names. We called them Mr., Brother, or Sisi something. We gave them respect. It’s just the general belief that human beings should be treated well and respected. In other words, respect begets respect.

What kind of father was he?

He was a friend, he was a listener. For me, he was both my mother and father. I came back from England with him in 1953. When I was a little girl; he was just wonderful to me. At a stage he used to plait my hair. Even when I had my kids, he would help me, he would carry them and sing for them whenever they cried. He was a good father and he was a very humane human being. He also believed in God, he was very active within his church. I’ve been blessed so much to have had a father like him. And he was a father to all. He loved people genuinely. He loved politics, and he was a very consistent politician.

What made him different from today’s politicians?

I think most of the politicians during his time were special people. Though they were in different parties, they still related with one other. When it came to the (political) battlefield, each person would fight for his own cause. But, it’s not like today. People were not as hungry and as greedy as they are today. They were different, they fought for independence, and they served their country. They had a genuine concern for the welfare of their communities and constituencies. Of course, there are still people like that, but you know the majority were that way during my father’s time. Also, they had ideologies. I still think that, whatever faults they might have had, they were better politicians than the ones of today.

What were his views about national politics?

Many people describe my dad as a detribalised Nigerian. Tribe didn’t matter to him at any stage in his life. In his early days, he had his primary school education in Calabar (Hope Waddel), and he spoke fluent Efik. He believed in the oneness of Nigeria. I remember my father being excited at the thought of any inter-tribal marriage. He wanted to see more of it because he believed in a one Nigeria. He wasn’t a bitter person. He once told me that whenever he flew into Enugu, he always felt like he was going home, and that he was touched by the warmth he always received. If someone who was from the West felt like that, then indeed he was a true Nigerian.

Dad wasn’t a greedy man. He didn’t think much about the accumulation of wealth; it didn’t matter to him. He believed in helping people and he wasn’t a showy person. Dad connected with the masses. He used to stop and park his car if he saw young boys playing football. He loved football. He wasn’t controversial and didn’t make himself controversial. He was humble, he was a very brilliant lawyer and politician, and he tried to be very efficient. Dad was a minister in the First Republic, then he became a pioneer commissioner in Lagos State. He was Attorney-General, he also became the commissioner for education. Being the commissioner for education was one job I think he enjoyed thoroughly.

Would you say your dad’s name has opened doors for you?

My dad did so well and left a lot of goodwill. So, it would be callous of me to say that it doesn’t rub off on me. Certainly it does, and I have no apologies for that.

Did your father influence your going into politics?

Yes, I can safely say that I started politics as a young girl, as a child actually, because I used to sing slogans for the National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons then while riding in a van, and I enjoyed it thoroughly. In fact, I had a registration card of the Zikist National Vanguard, it was only to humour me as a child; their meetings were held weekly or fortnightly in our house on Apapa Road. I started quite early and I used to follow my dad everywhere. I think he saw the potential in me and he encouraged me; I’m glad he did. My two brothers are also interested in politics. They are in the Peoples Democratic Party. We are all interested in politics one way or the other.

What do you think your dad would have said about you being a strong member of the All Progressives Congress, while your siblings are of the PDP?

That is democracy. God knows that I love my brothers very much. It doesn’t take anything from me. You called my brother and he told you to call me. That’s the way we are. We are not controversial and we’ve not made dad’s name controversial after death by fighting among ourselves. My dad taught us to love one another, and that no matter our differences, we should always resolve them.

What would have been his views about the APC and the PDP?

I think his views would be that they are both national parties. Then, he was always a part of national parties. But, I don’t think he would have been against my choice. What he wouldn’t have agreed with was if I had decided to change parties again now, that is, after changing parties in 2006; I think he would have thoroughly given me a good talking to, because he was a very consistent person. It was just a necessary decision I had to make in 2006. If he were around, he would have agreed with me. Most of the decisions I’ve made in politics are from what he instilled in me.

What do you miss most about him?

I miss his friendship and his being there. I miss his jokes. He had a wonderful sense of humour. I used to have some really good laughs with my dad. The day he died was a very bad day for me. He had been ill, but it was controllable. Till today, I still feel the vacuum. I think my siblings feel that way too. He was a friend and father. He wasn’t a dictator. He was somebody one could approach. I think my siblings would tell you the same thing. He was going to 79 when he died.

Do you think he died fulfilled?

He was a bit disillusioned about the way Nigeria was going. He would feel really bad about the country if he were still alive today. But, let’s just pray that things get better.

Did he regret not becoming the governor of Lagos State?

No, he did not regret it. But, he would have loved to be governor, and he would have made a good governor because of his performance in everything else he did during his lifetime. Later, I became quite close to Alhaji Lateef Jakande because he was a leader of the party I joined, the Social Political Party. I was going to meetings in his house. Later, some people went to my dad to tell him that he should call me to order. But, my dad replied them, ‘What are you (people) talking about? Jakande is her party’s leader. Is he supposed to come to her house? She has to go there.’ He told me not to bother about them, and he supported me. That was the kind of man my dad was.

How did he create time for his family?

There was a time earlier on, when he held party posts; he was national chairman, Nigeria Peoples Party, and during the NCNC, I think he was one of the primary House of Representatives members; he held many positions, he was chairman, the Federal Loans Board. He also had a law practice. So, he was busy. He spent a lot of time out of the house, but he found time to be with us. I remember we used to go out on Sundays when we were much younger; he would drive us around and he would buy us ice-cream. He found time during Easter and Christmas; we had holidays together abroad, my step-mum, my brothers and I.

How did he discipline his children whenever they erred?

Oh! I got slaps now and then, but not often, far, far apart, and when I grew up, it stopped. We began to understand each other. He had other ways of disciplining us.

How did he react whenever he was angry?

My dad never used strong language; the highest he would say was, “Silly boy! Silly girl!” Or, “foolish man! Silly man!” He didn’t use bad language, and, it wasn’t part of our upbringing.

What was his daily routine like?

When dad woke up, he expected everybody to be up at the same time. He had his bath early and would go to court. When he came back (from work), he could wake you up at 1 o’clock because he wanted to talk. He could stay up late working if he had a case. Each time they banned politics; he went back to his law and practised. He kept himself busy, but he loved politics.

Can you describe your dad’s relationship with Azikiwe?

My dad’s relationship with Zik was a fantastic one. That’s Zik’s photograph there (pointing to the wall). We were like a family and I still feel like he’s part of my family. We are still family friends till date. It was a very close and deep relationship. I remember when I asked Zik, he said, “You know what, Ade, I don’t really know what I did to deserve your father, but I thank God for your father.” When Zik went to Zungeru, where he was born, and he was honoured there, my dad couldn’t go; he (Zik) wrote a letter, a part read, “With your absence there, I felt alone in a crowd.” That was how close they were. My dad first met Zik when my dad was a student in King’s College. I think Zik came to give a talk in the school and my dad had the honour of introducing him. I think that was where the friendship started and it continued until they both passed. My dad had a pen name, which was Gaius Marcus Politicos.

What role did your dad play when there was an alleged friction between Azikiwe and Awolowo?

My dad still called Awolowo, ‘Bra mi’, meaning, brother. Awolowo was at my wedding. My dad had great respect for Awolowo and Awolowo also had respect for him, maybe because of his consistency and forthrightness, but they were in different political parties. At one time, they were together in the United Progressive Grand Alliance; UPGA was an alliance of the Action Group and the NCNC at the time, but it was for a short period.

What kind of books did your dad read?

My dad was widely read. Of course, he read a lot of law books. He was always buying books. He was also a Pan-Africanist.

Aside from Zik and the others you mentioned, who were your dad’s closest friends?

One of his closest friends was T.O.S Benson. He was more like a brother. He was from Ikorodu too. Dad also had a childhood friend called Mr. Shoga. There was also Edward Sankey. Dad had many friends all over the country.

How sociable was he?

He went to many parties, he was a function-goer, but he didn’t drink and he didn’t smoke. He had a good itinerary of functions to go to almost every weekend and there were commitments for one reason or the other. But he wasn’t a social person that would go in front of the band and dance.

What were his likes and dislikes?

Dad loved beautiful women, and that says it all. My dad loved good food, and he loved dressing well. He took his time about his dressing and his appearance. He wasn’t over-elaborate, but he liked to dress well. He didn’t like loud, vulgar people. Some people are loud that it borders on vulgarity. He believed that if you did something wrong you should own up to it. He liked fun-loving and outspoken people. He was a total democrat as far as I am concerned. He loved Kings College. He was President of Kings College for a very long time and he just took delight in the school. If it were possible, he would have dressed me up like a boy and sent me there (laughs). But all his grandchildren, at least the older ones, went to Kings College, and that was a delight for him.

What kind of music did he like?

My dad loved the music of Fela Anikulapo Kuti and Hurbert Ogunde. Fela used to make him laugh. He also liked Ambrose Campbell and Tunde Nightingale; there were one or two songs of Ebenezer Obey that he liked. And in my family, we also had great affection for Sunny Ade. My dad also liked listening to oldies, such as Frank Sinatra.

What was his favourite meal?

He liked eba with vegetable or egusi soup. He also liked eko. He always ate light meals at night.

How was his relationship with your mum and step-mum?

Let me explain it this way, my mum and dad parted ways when I was a child. But you could never say a word against my mum to my dad, and you could never say a word to my mum against my dad. That helped me a lot because it took away a lot of problems. They still looked out for each other, communicated with each other. He also loved my step-mother very much. My dad had good relationships with women. He wasn’t someone who ill-treated women. He believed that he should cater for his women and he did that. And that is something that is lacking in many men today. An elderly lady told me recently that my dad was supposed to marry her, but he didn’t, that she refused him. But, she said he was never nasty or aggressive towards her. She said she had a friend in him till the day he died; and that when he died, it hurt her very much because he was very cordial. That touched me.

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Dad no longer jogs outside after Dimgba Igwe’s death — Mike Awoyinfa’s son

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Babajide is the first son of popular media professional, Mike Awoyinfa. He speaks about his father’s career with GBENGA ADENIJI

Please give a brief profile of yourself.

I am Babajide Awoyinfa. I work with the News Agency of Nigeria. I am the first son of Mr. and Mrs Mike and Olubukola Awoyinfa. I studied Political Science at the Covenant University, Ota, Ogun State. I have two brothers who are twins.

Did your father influence you to choose journalism?

When I graduated, it was hard for me to get a job. I was at home for about a year. I enjoy reading and writing like my father. At a point, I applied to the NAN and I was invited for an interview. I passed the written test and oral interview. I must add that my father’s influence played no role in my getting employment at NAN. It was a job I got based on merit. I proved that I am capable of writing without leaning on my father’s journalism popularity.

Did your father persuade his children on their career choices?

No, my father did not influence the career choice of any of his children. For instance, Taiwo is an information technology expert while Kehinde is an engineer. On my own part, I chose journalism because I have a passion for it. Like I said earlier, I like reading and writing. These hobbies must have played a key role in my choosing journalism.

Your father is a notable name in Nigerian journalism, what kind of person is he at home?

My father is a calm man. He is also a shy person. He does not like facing the crowd. His best method of communicating is through writing. He is also a man that likes to keep to himself. He is current and tries to keep abreast of recent happenings.

Can you recall the places he took his family to for relaxation when you were growing up?

Yes, he used to take us to Whispering Palms, Lagos. We would have fun as a family; discussing and savouring every moment. We were always out to watch movies. But now that we are grown-ups, we do not have the luxury of such picnic. All the children are now busy trying to be on their own.

How does he relax?

My father does not relax. Whenever he is at home, he puts on his laptop and starts working on the headlines for the paper’s next edition. He will be thinking on the new angles to introduce to the editor to keep the paper ahead. When he was with The Sun newspapers as its managing director, he hardly slept. Even now, if he is not on Instagram, he will be on Twitter, Facebook or BlackBerry messenger. He is not an old school man. He belongs to the new school because he always updates himself. There is no question on anything that he will not show knowledge of; music, fashion, politics etc. He knows so much than us when it comes to music despite our deep knowledge of it. There was a day he came to me and said he just listened to the music of a Nigerian dancehall singer, Patoranking (Patrick Okorie) and that the musician would go far. I was shocked and asked him how he knew the singer. He told me that he listens carefully to his songs.

What part of his job do you find challenging?

The part I find challenging is his dedication to the writing of biographies despite his busy nature. He, with his late friend, Dimgba Igwe, had written a number of biographies for some prominent Nigerians. I hope to have the strength and skills to do same in future.

Is he encouraging you to continue with journalism?

Yes, he is. In fact, he told me to earn a master’s degree to augment my first degree. He also told me that to succeed on the job I must be passionate about it. My father said the passion would eventually assist me to make headway in it.

What special treatment did you enjoy in school because of who he is?

When I was in the university, he was the MD of The Sun newspapers. I was popular among friends who often requested me to buy them lunch or pay for things they bought. They thought my father was a rich man not knowing that he was just struggling. To them, he was one of the top earners in Nigeria and I must let them enjoy part of his wealth. I ended up acceding to a few requests which I could handle on my own. His popularity did not earn me any special recognition from my lecturers. I faced my studies well.

Did he visit you while you were in the university?

He never had time. It was on the day of my convocation ceremony that he visited. He was very busy throughout my university days. Even that day, no one knew it was him. He likes privacy. He does not like to announce himself anywhere he goes to. That day, only few people knew he was the one and immediately he exchanged pleasantries with them, he withdrew to his quiet nature.

What kind of music does he listen to?

He listens to all kinds of music. He listens to reggae, rock, rhythm and blues, juju, hip-hop and so on. He can wake up late in the night and listen to any of the songs. He also knows the lyrics of all the songs he listens to. His family is also aware of his love for music.

How did he react to the news of the death of his friend, Dimgba Igwe?

The day he lost his twin brother (that’s how we refer to the late Igwe) was a very sad day. We were in the UK to attend the graduation of one of my brothers. We were going for a picnic in the morning of that fateful day when I heard my father shouting, “What happened, what did you say?’’ on the telephone. He was talking to somebody in Nigeria. I rushed out and asked him what happened. He only said, “I don’t know what happened. Dimgba is dead.’’ We had to call the person back and she told us to call somebody in our house because someone had just died. We called a cousin of mine who was at home and asked him what happened at home. He said there was no problem. We told him not to end the call and go to Dimgba’s home nearby to find out what happened. He later told us that Dimgba was dead. The shock was too much for my mother to bear. She started crying while my father was just saying, “My pillar is gone. I am finished.” Everybody was just shouting and we were cautioned not to invite the police into the neighbourhood with our noise. My family was wrapped in grief. Since I was born, that day was the saddest moment of my life because we lost somebody who was dear to my family. My father did not cry but he was really sad that day. I have never seen him cry.

What is his normal schedule?

He wakes up at 6am to prepare for work and returns around 8pm. When he gets home, he resumes reading and writing.

What comes to your mind about him each time you read his column?

The headline he casts for his column draws attention. He has a knack for casting good headlines. He also starts his column in a very dramatic way. He does it in a way that even a layman will understand what he is saying. He carries everybody along in his column because he treats contemporary issues. He writes like a preacher. I never get bored reading his column. I laugh each time I read him because his style is great. I am trying to emulate him because what I do now is purely reporting.

What is his favourite meal or drink?

My father likes Semovita and okro soup. He also enjoys red wine but he stopped drinking a year ago. Sometimes, he can take a little to help him sleep but he does not take beer.

How does he like to dress?

He dresses like a typical Yoruba man. He wears native attire but also likes English dresses.

Who are his friends?

My father has no friend again. He lost his best friend recently. He told me that my mother and his children are now his best friends. He was very close to Dimgba Igwe that it would be hard for anybody to replace him. Their relationship was so deep that we were suspecting if what they had was more than friendship. They were very fond of each other. They would sit in a corner in each other’s house depending on who was visiting the other to talk. Nobody can understand Awoyinfa like Dimgba Igwe did. We are however happy that the two of them broke ethnic barriers to be intimate. It is something I think Nigerians should emulate. It will further progress our nation.

Is he into any sports?

Yes, he used to jog from his house to the bus-stop every morning. Everybody in the area knew him especially as he always wore a Chelsea or Nigerian jersey while jogging on the street. But since his ‘twin brother’ died, he started jogging within the compound of his house. They used to jog together until the unfortunate incident caused by a hit-and-run driver. He does not want to jog outside so that people will not pity him when they see him jogging alone. My father blamed himself when the driver knocked down his friend that he could have saved him if he were around. We had to tell him that Dimgba Igwe’s family also wanted to save his life too like he wished. Hence, he should stop blaming himself or thinking he could have saved him if he were around at that time.

What are the ideals you have learnt from him?

My father is a very calm man and I have imbibed that too. He is also very honest. My father can never cheat anybody. I have learnt that from him too.

How sociable is he?

He has a bad social life. He knows that himself. The things that keep him sociable are the social media.

How does he handle disagreements with his wife?

I have never seen them disagree. My father has never laid a hand on his wife. He once called us to say that we should never beat any woman no matter the provocation. We have learnt a great deal from that advice. My mother is very agile and occasionally if she is upset, my father knows how to calm her down. They are compatible and that is the reason we live as a happy family.

How has his name helped you?

I get opportunities when people know he is my father. A boss of mine once told me that he learnt so much when he worked with my father. I was so happy with that testimony but I don’t allow the respect and love people have for him to get into my head.

How comfortable is he?

He is comfortable in his own way. He is neither rich nor poor though some may think he is a wealthy man. The little he has he invests on our education. He can deny himself anything to see that his children achieve their educational dreams. There was a time one of my brothers told him he would like to take groundnuts to the UK when going back to continue his studies. My father drove out to buy it and I was surprised that his children sent him on an errand and he went. But that is my father, one cannot predict him when it comes to what he can do to show his love for his children.

How did he discipline any of his children who misbehaved?

My father verbally corrected us whenever we did something wrong while growing up. There was a time I did something wrong. He expressed his disappointment through verbal outburst. That day, I wished he had beaten me because his words were harsher than the cane. My mother was the one who used the cane when we did wrong.

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My father has no social life — Kola Oyewo’s son

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Adetoyese is the third son of veteran actor and university teacher, Dr. Kola Oyewo. He talks about the kind of life his father leads off stage and outside the classroom with GBENGA ADENIJI

Please give a brief profile of yourself.

I am Adetoyese Oyewo, a graduate of Geography from the Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Osun State. I am the third son of Dr. Adekola and Mrs. Olajumoke Oyewo. I am a professional photographer and property merchant.

What memory of your growing up with your father can you recall?

We are five boys and it was fun growing up with my dad. My father is a very kind man and he always puts his family first. If I should start narrating the kind of fun we had when we were young, I am sure that I would make volumes of books on it. There were times we went to the farm with him. Also, there were times we had to wait till late in the night for him to return from rehearsals so that we could eat from the leftovers of his meals. We would gather in the night to pray before going to bed. It is hard to be with him and not laugh. He is fun to be with. He is also my friend and not just my father.

Where were the places he took his family to for relaxation while you were young?

Whenever my father wants to relax, there is only one place he goes to; it is his hometown, Oba Ile in Osun State. That was where he often took us to for relaxation while we were growing up. My father is not a rich man hence he does not have the luxury of taking us abroad for holidays. But at his villa (Oba Ile), we would drink from the same calabash; eat a mountain of pounded yam sitting on bare floor. At times, he could decide to drive us to the zoo in OAU to see the animals.

Your father is a lecturer and actor; did he encourage any of his children to follow in his footsteps in terms of career choice?

Yes, he did encourage his children to follow in his footsteps. Being a lecturer and actor, some of his children also pursued careers that are related to his disciplines. For instance, some of his children are into researching, acting, photography and production. These are disciplines that are connected to his chosen fields.

Which of the movies he featured in is your favourite and why?

He has featured in many superb films. But I love his acting on stage. Through that, he displays his artistic prowess and unique rendition of lines. Since you want to know the movie he had featured in which I like most, I will pick Saworoide. He interpreted the role excellently. The role he played in the movie also brings a similar performance he displayed in The Gods Are Not To Blame in which he acted as King Odewale.

How does he create time for his family?

My father is someone who loves his family so much. Hence creating time for his family is quite an easy thing for him. Whenever he is not having any performance, his attention is always on his family. There were times we played football together as a family in the front of our house. My mother was also part of the team.

How did he discipline an erring child?

My father cannot stand any child that is spoilt or untrained. We were always careful not to offend him when we were growing up. We knew that it would not be a good thing for us to provoke him. He would use the cane if he should. But he always ensured that he told the child that misbehaved what he did so that he would not repeat the same thing again. Though he cares so much for us, he did not spare the rod. He is a disciplinarian. However, I see him as my good friend no matter the punishment he gave me for misbehaving. There was a day he beat me for doing something wrong. If I remember correctly I was supposed to grind corn that we wanted to use to make pap. When I was leaving home, he told me not to take the short cut home after grinding the pap because he knew that I could take the route. He warned me so that I would not throw away the corn because the path was narrow. But I thought I was smart and disobeyed him. On the way, I slipped and the ground corn in a big bowl placed on my head fell on the ground.   When he discovered what happened, he beat me silly with the ground corn smeared all over my body. It was not a funny day at all.

Who are your father’s friends?

My father has two major friends that I know of. The first one is actor Peter Fatomilola and the late Laide Adewale who was also an actor. Those are his closest friends even though he has many other people who are close to him.

What is his best form of relaxation?

My father likes to relax by lying on the bed and reading. When he was younger, he would be in company with his friends drinking beer. They really enjoyed their youth.

How close are you to him?

He is my good friend. We are very close. In fact, the love between us is so strong that my brothers are aware of it. Even till now, our relationship is like that of a brother and friend not like that of a father and son.

What kind of father is he?

Adekola is the kind of father any child will wish to have. He is loving, friendly and caring. I respect him so much and respond to him with ‘Sir.’ I am very obedient to him even when he had nothing.

What is his favourite meal?

My father likes pounded yam. He also likes taking pap and efo in the morning.

What is his favourite drink?

My father used to drink beer but he stopped when he clocked 50 years. He replaced beer with red wine. He enjoys red wine now but occasionally, he drinks brandy. We sometimes drink together with him.

What is his normal schedule like?

He reads after waking up and prepares for work. If there is time, he will have a chat with us before going to location if he has any performance to be part of.

How do you feel each time you watch him act?

When he is acting, I really don’t have any special feeling. I always see him as my father and not the superstar his fans see him as. But I always appreciate his talent and what he has become with the help of his dear wife and especially God Almighty. I must confess that his focus, dream and feats are a big challenge to me and my siblings. We are constantly aware that we have to make him proud in our chosen disciplines.

In what ways would you say his name has opened doors for you?

Through his name, I have received some favours and blessings from a lot of people. But most times, I don’t let people know that he is my father except they find out themselves. The name Adekola Oyewo has worked for me a few times but I do not carry it on my head. I believe in making impact in my own little way. I do not use his name to seek favours. As his son, I always enjoyed watching plays free-of-charge in the Dramatic Arts Department of the Obafemi Awolowo University when he was lecturing there.   When I was a student, there was no special treatment for me. No lecturer gave me any preferential treatment because of who my father is. OAU is a school where no special treatment is given to any student.

How sociable is he?

My father is not sociable. He only attends events which his church organises. I think this development has affected his social life. I am of the view that social events can also help him to network.

What kind of music does he listen to?

When it comes to music, I know that my father likes listening to the music of King Sunny Ade. He also enjoys the music of the late Sikiru Ayinde Barrister and the late Orlando Owoh. He appreciates good African music.

How does he like to dress?

My father loves to appear neat always whether he is wearing a traditional or English attire. He also likes good shoes. He puts on good shoes to match any clothes he wears.

Have you ever watched him teach?

I attended his classes several times. His students always enjoy his lectures too. He is a very practical lecturer.

What is his favourite quote?

His favourite quote is “It is beyond talent.” This quote is hinged on his belief that no matter what one’s talent may be, one needs to exhibit a high level of hard work and dedication to be outstanding among one’s peers.

What brand of car does he like?

My father used to like Mercedes Benz car but because of the state of roads in Nigeria, he now prefers Sport Utility Vehicles. He drives a SUV.

How does he settle disagreements with his wife?

When I was growing up, I cannot recall any day I saw my parents having any arguments. They never quarrelled in front of us. They could have had disagreements but none was open to their children.

What are the ideals he taught you?

My father is a very honest man. This is something one cannot take away from him. I have learnt this and constantly display this in my dealings with people. He also believes in hard work. I have imbibed this ideal too because I am sure that hard work and God’s grace got him to where he is today. Another thing that I have learnt from him is his humility. Humility opens doors even the ones that are shut. From him too, I have learnt not to struggle over material things because nothing lasts forever.

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Stress killed my father — Prof. Oyin Ogunba’s son

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Segun is one of the children of the late leading scholar of African literature, Professor Oyin Ogunba. He talks about his father’s career and life with GBENGA ADENIJI

Tell us about yourself.

I am Professor Segun Ogunba. I lecture in the Department of Estate Management, Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Osun State. I am the first professor in the university whose father was also a professor in the institution. I am the first son of the late Prof. Oyin Ogunba. I have an elder sister, Mrs. Titi Adegbile who is the Head, Legal Department of the Redeemed Christian Church of God.

Your father was a notable figure in the Humanities with interest in African literature, how did he create time for his family in those days?

At the time he was teaching, specifically at the OAU, he was a very busy man. At a time he was the head of department, vice-dean of the faculty of arts, dean of the faculty, provost of the college of arts and education and chairman, committee of provosts and director of the cultural institute of the institution. But he still created time for his family. He had a regular routine and when he was at home, he would tell us stories about the tortoise. He also sang cultural songs to us. His PhD was on festivals. He studied the festivals of the Ondo and Ijebu people. He was not a Christian until the last hours of his life thus he used to make fun of Christian songs and changed them to cultural songs. For instance he would sing, “Ebora ge mije loru ana ni. Ebora pupa ni lori oke.” (A monster bite me last night. It was a red monster on the mountain.) Even though other members of the family are Christians, he would sing the song to our delight. He gave all of us nicknames. He had a very rich cultural background and some of his students who took his course on oral literature told us how they used to enjoy his course. Even students who did not offer his course liked to be in his class to listen to the cultural songs he would sing to his students. My father was very responsible and full of morals despite not being a Christian. He was very tolerant and quiet. He made sure he gave us adequate attention whenever he was at home.

Where were the places he took his family to for relaxation?

My father used to take us to his house in Ijebu Ode, Ogun State. He also encouraged us to visit the Staff Club in the university to play lawn tennis. He took my younger siblings and me to the club to learn the game. The club has a connotation that is it for people who drink hence our mother often discouraged us from going there. But anytime he was going to the club, he would take us along with him. There was a time he was on sabbatical at the University of Kent, Canterbury, United Kingdom. He took his family along. I did one year primary school there. I was about four years old at that time. I recall that he took us canoeing. We travelled to and from the UK on the sea. It was in 1972.

Was he the one who encouraged you to be in the academia?  

My father gave his children freehand regarding career choices. But we actually like the life of lecturing. At least three of us are lecturers. My elder sister is a lawyer but also has interest in lecturing. My father had six children but one died sometime ago. We are five now. I am the second child and the first son.

How did he relax at home?

He liked singing and would thrill us with cultural songs. He enjoyed listening to the British Broadcasting Corporation any time he was at home.

Did you have the opportunity of attending his lectures?

Yes, I attended his classes many times. Like I said earlier, many students who were not taking his course often attended his classes because they were lively and engaging. He would narrate several festivals and other oral traditions.

Were you treated specially while in the university because of your father’s popularity?

Certainly. Even my being in OAU now was partly because of his influence. There were many applications when I applied to teach in the university and I think his name assisted me too.

Why did you choose a different career path?

When I was at the Federal Government College, Odogbolu, Ogun State, my favourite subjects were Economics and Geography. When it was time to enter the university, I chose Estate Management even though I didn’t know what it was all about then. I got the admission immediately. I also did well in Literature-in-English but Economics was my favourite subject.

What was his favourite meal?

He was a very traditional man. His favourite meal was eba, amala and so on.

How did he like to dress?

He dressed traditionally. He loved wearing native dresses. It was hard to see him in English dresses. He had suits but he never wore them. He could put them on only during convocation ceremonies but it was rare to see him wear English dresses without a major reason.

How did he discipline any erring child?

He did not use the cane. It was my mother, who was also a lecturer, that used the cane. If we offended him, he would tell us to ‘go to the corner’, raise up our hands and close our eyes. That was how he corrected us and sometimes there could be verbal corrections.

Which are the ones you enjoy reading among the many books your father wrote?

My father’s major works were on Wole Soyinka. He worked with Soyinka at the University of Lagos in the sixties. People believe Soyinka’s writing is complex but my father tried to simplify his works in his publications on Soyinka.

Who were your father’s friends?

I hope I can remember their names. I recall that some of them usually visited him at home. They included Profs.Biodun Jeyifo, Ropo Sekoni, Wole Soyinka and Chima Anyadike among others. I remember one day that Soyinka came to our house and my elder sister told him, “I have read all your books.’’ Soyinka smiled and replied her, “Even your father has not despite writing books on my works.’’

What was his favourite drink?

He used to take beer moderately. I never saw him drunk. He used to tell us that beer has medicinal qualities but should not be taken in excess. He loved to take a bottle daily. He used to drink it with some of his friends in the Staff Club at the ‘Elders’ Corner’ either in OAU or the University of Ibadan.

What ideals did you learn from him?

I learnt honesty. My father was a very honest man. He never compromised on honesty which was surprising because he was an atheist until few hours before his death. He took his responsibility as a parent seriously. There were times he had to borrow to make sure that he met our basic needs. He was very morally upright. I have learnt all these from him.

How has his name helped you?

His name helped me to get some vacation jobs when I was still in the university. I also got some jobs through his name before I started lecturing. Some people after knowing I am his child would exclaim, “So you are his son, he was a good man.’’ He helped many students. When I was at Covenant University, Ota, Ogun State, there was a particular lady who told me that my father was her external supervisor. She said her supervisor actually wanted her to fail. She said her supervisor told my father that she deserved to fail but my father refused. There were three occasions like that where his former students told me the same thing.

How did he die?

He had a stroke. When he retired from the OAU, he became a contract professor in the Department of English, Ogun State University (now Olabisi Onabanjo University). He actually started lecturing at UNILAG and UI. When professors retire, they can still take teaching contracts renewable yearly. When he got to the institution, he was really stressed there because of the jobs he handled. He had a high blood pressure which he was managing for 40 years. He took tablets everyday for 40 years. He was seriously overworked while in the institution. Many people did not even know that he had stroke. He was living alone while in the university and he had a stroke overnight. We once planned to get him a driver and a domestic servant but he refused. He said we could do all that later, saying he could cater for himself at that time. It was the next day that somebody came to visit him and called him. He was trying to reply the person from inside the room when the person heard a loud sound like someone falling from the bed. It was the person who alerted the people around who broke the door and found him on the floor. He was taken to the Ogun State University Teaching Hospital, Sagamu, Ogun State. That was where he passed on.

Was there pressure on his children to excel academically while schooling being children of a professor?

Every one of us has a master’s degree. Two others apart from myself are on their PhDs. Our parents ensured that we were educated in the best schools. We all attended Federal Government Colleges. They were the best schools then except one of us that went to Mayflower, Ikenne. The late Tai Solarin was in the school in those days. We grew up with a lot of books. My father’s library was up-to-date. We were introduced early in life to good books including encyclopedias of various kinds.

Was he into any sports?

He played lawn tennis. He bought rackets for me and my younger brother who is a doctor. He taught us how to play the game. He was a prominent member of the Staff Club Lawn Tennis Club both at OAU and UI.

How close were you to him?

I was closer to my mother. So I cannot say I was very close to him. But he was a very warm man. He was a very good father. He never interfered in our affairs even when we got married. He counselled me about marriage a lot.

How did he ensure peace with his wife?

There is no family without disagreements. My parents had disagreements but they settled them as they arose. They did not allow them to aggravate. They were compatible actually. My mother died 2005 while my father in 2008.

How does his family remember him every year?

There are plans to organise a memorial lecture in his honour. But for now, we have written his former department (English Studies) in OAU to institute a prize for the Best Student in Oral Literature. We intend to award a substantial amount to the deserving student and donate a library to the department in honour of our father.

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Dad was a good dancer — FRA Williams’s son

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Kayode, one of the sons of the late legal luminary, Chief FRA Williams (SAN), tells ARUKAINO UMUKORO about his father

Please, tell us a bit about yourself.

I am Chief Kayode Rotimi Williams. I am the second son of the late Chief Frederick Rotimi Alade Williams (SAN). I am a Dutch-trained farmer.

How come you are not a lawyer like your father and some of your siblings?

My mother went into poultry farming and I was very close to my mother. She had no biological daughter, although she raised a lot of people who I consider to be my sisters and her adopted daughters. So, being very close to her, she taught me about farming, cooking, baking and sewing. Naturally, I developed a love for farming. But, it was not an easy thing for me to break the family tradition. Interestingly, unknown to most people, my father, the late Chief FRA Williams, was a third-generation lawyer. His father, the late Thomas Ekundayo Williams, was a lawyer; so also was his great-uncle, FRA Cole. My elder brother, Chief Ladi Rotimi Williams, is a fourth-generation lawyer. Two of my elder brother’s children, as well as two of my children, are lawyers. So, his children and my children are fifth-generation lawyers. But, I am a first-generation farmer (laughs). My immediate younger brother has two children who are lawyers, and my youngest brother has a daughter who is also a lawyer. So, the law tradition continues in the family.

Did your father influence your siblings’ career choices?

Yes, I would say so, in the sense that my father was their hero, especially through all the sensational cases.

Can you recollect some of the landmark cases?  

Yes. One of them was the revenue allocation formula case, Lakanmi case, where a murder suspect was granted bail by the Supreme Court. Another one was the one which the military government was put in check by the Supreme Court. I also remember that of Chief MKO Abiola.

How was it growing up with such a famous lawyer father?

He was a loving father and just like any other good father, he tried his best and created time for us, although he was always very busy. I remember the occasions he tutored me in Geography when I didn’t do too well in the subject. We had a tremendous childhood. I grew up like any normal child of those days. I grew up used to being surrounded by law books and lawyers.

What are the other values you learnt from your father?

Our father taught us not to be proud or arrogant. He made us realise that whatever he had achieved, he achieved by dint of hard work, God’s blessing and personal effort. Dad also taught us to be modest and that one cannot claim to be anything by riding on the back of one’s father, except one achieved something by oneself for oneself. He taught us that. I’m happy today that two of my brothers are Senior Advocates of Nigeria. They have their chambers and are doing very well. I have my farm and I’m able to keep soul and body together. I also learnt honesty. He always said that honesty is always the best policy, and no matter how bad one’s situation is, it was always best to tell the truth. We were trained to be modest. We are proud of that upbringing.

How did he create time for his family?

He created time for us on Saturdays and Sundays. In those days, when we were much younger, he used to take us to church every Sunday. And during the week, when we were on holidays, we all ate together on the same table. Also, during lunch at home, he would tell us about the cases he went for in court. We would also discuss politics and current affairs.

How did he discipline his children whenever they erred?

Let me put it this way, for us, after God, it was Papa. The children of nowadays talk back at their father. But, we didn’t do that. It was simply, ‘Yes, Papa; all right, Papa; I’ll do so, Papa.” We revered and loved him so much. In those days, when you say, “I’ll report you to your mummy,” we would say, “Okay, go ahead,” and one would just get one, three to six strokes of the cane. But to mention being reported to Papa was a very serious thing, because none of us wanted him to get angry with us. It wasn’t a question of fear, but of deep love and respect; we held him in such high esteem and didn’t want him to hear anything bad about us. He was deified. We only wanted him to hear good things about us. When they reported us to him, he would say, “Oh, I’m shocked and disappointed.” That was all. But whenever he said that, it made one feel really bad, because when he discussed with you, he brought you up to his level. So, one didn’t want to now fall and be a naughty boy. I think the worst he ever did to discipline us was to tell one to stand at a corner and face the wall. He never used the cane. It was Mama that used the cane regularly. Mama was a no-nonsense woman; she would discipline one appropriately if one went against her rules.

How did your dad react whenever he was angry?

One would expect him to shout, but he never did. All he would say was, “I’m disappointed in you.” That was sufficient enough to spoil one’s day and make one feel bad for days to come. He never raised his hand to beat us.

What are his likes and dislikes?

He loved hard work, honesty, and was a man of wisdom. He was irritated by dishonesty, stupidity, and laziness. In those days he used to play lawn tennis and also took part in quite a number of novelty football matches. I remember in the Western Region when he was the Minister of Justice and Attorney-General, he played as a right fullback against the nurses of the University Teaching Hospital, Ibadan. I watched the match. I remember the nurses respected him too much to dribble him (laughs). After that, they all took a group photograph with him standing in the middle. His team won the match.

What kind of person was your dad?

He was a very kind person. He also related with his workers and staff, not on a master-servant basis, but like one big happy family. Today, we still relate with most of his ex-workers and lawyers who served in his chambers, as brothers. That was what he had imbibed in us. He gave free lunch to his staff. Lawyers that passed through papa’s chambers liked to call themselves members of the ‘Black Table,’ because they used to sit together and have discussions at a black table (in the chambers). I designed the table in the 70s.

Who were some of your dad’s contemporaries?

There were many, such as Afolabi Lardner (SAN), G.O.K Ajayi, Chief Kayode Sofola, Chief Chris Ogunbajo, the late Chief Remi Fani-Kayode, T.O.B Oki, and the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo. My dad and Awolowo were friends. Dad used to say that Awolowo was a brilliant and very thorough lawyer. Also, the very first legal partnership for law practice in Nigeria was formed by my father, the late Bode Thomas, and the late Chief Remi Fani Kayode. I think this was in the 50s.

Do you remember any notable case that pitted your dad and Awolowo against each other?

I cannot recollect that. I know they handled one or two cases together, not against each other; they acted for the same client. But, please note that I read agriculture and not law.

What was his normal day like?

His normal day started at 4.30am. Then, he would have tea or coffee with Mama in their bedroom. And by quarter past five, every day, he was in the office, because the office was located in a section of the house. He washed and dressed for court in his office. In fact, during the time they had tea together, we the children used to say that was the meeting of our own ‘local supreme court,’ because if there was a decision to be taken about one of us, it was during that period they decided on it (laughs). Later in the day, he had lunch and went back to the chambers and closed by 7pm, 8pm or 8.30pm, depending on the exigencies of work. But, he never missed the 9pm news in those days. Of course, he had a big room where sometimes we the children may decide on our own to join him for dinner. By 9pm, he was on his bed, half-asleep and listening to the news. By the time, the news was over, he would be fast asleep.

It is said that your dad had a library that would surpass those in some tertiary institutions’. Is this true?

Yes, that is very correct. The library is still there. I was part of the team that designed the new library. By the virtue of my training, my late father often referred construction and expansion of buildings and anything technical to me. Therefore, the late Chief Wole Obikoya, Nwankwo, an architect and I designed the library. I think the library would have close to 50,000 books.

As a lawyer, he must have had a voracious appetite for reading?

Yes he did. Aside from law books, he read autobiographies and biographies. He read history and things about nature. He was very fond of the British encyclopaedia, but when DSTV came on scene, his best programme was comedy shows. He also liked watching National Geography, Discovery Channel, and History Channel. He particularly enjoyed reading about the Second World War. It used to fascinate him because he was a student in England at the time.

How has your dad’s name opened doors for you?

My father’s name has opened doors for me in many ways, especially among the non-Yoruba. But among the Yoruba, it does not always open doors. Let me say the non-Yoruba, like the Northerner, people of South-East and South-South, and so on, respect my father a lot.

What was your dad’s favourite meal?

He loved rice and fresh fish stew.

What was his favourite drink?

In his younger days, it was whiskey and soda. But when he grew older, it was diet Coke, with plenty of ice.

What was the genesis of his famous nickname, Timi the Law?

I think there was a big matter in those days, the Henry Willinks Commission. Sir Dingle Foot, the famous British lawyer, was on one side, Papa was on the other side. And of course, the late Dingle Foot had thought the case would be a walkover. But at the end of the case, my father won the case. Dingle Foot went and congratulated him and said that he didn’t realise that Africa had such a formidable advocate. And it was then, that day, that late Chief Awolowo labelled my dad Timi the Law. This happened in the late 1950s or early 1960s. I’m not so sure.

What are some of the fond memories you have of your father?

I say this with all truthfulness; he was the best friend of each of his four children. There was nothing I could not talk to him about, and I could always confide in him. And he was like that with the four of us.

What do you think is his legacy?

He believed in the rule of law. What he always stood up for was that we should uphold the rule of law and we should not take the law into our own hands. Upholding the rule of law is the only way any society can function.

How was his relationship with your mum?

The love between them was deeper than that of Romeo and Juliet. They were very devoted to each other and they had tremendous respect for each other. No matter how interesting a discussion one might be having with our mum, the moment she heard Papa was back from court, she would say, “Excuse me, I have to go and prepare my husband’s food.” Dad was always her priority and she was always his. She wasn’t a lawyer, but her father was.

What would you say about the controversy over his will and estate?

Initially when we had disagreements, I was greatly disturbed, dismayed and very upset. But, I now later realised that there is hardly any family that doesn’t have issues, even where the father left nothing. Now, I’m grateful to God that we have largely settled our differences. Hopefully, very soon, we would all come together to sort things out. But that is largely among the three who are lawyers because they are the ones who would do out the legal drafting and work out something that would be acceptable to all. The interesting thing is that all along, it’s not like we were abusive to each other. Our children and wives are all friends, and I can go to the houses of any of my brothers anytime I choose to. It was just that because three of them are lawyers, they decided to go to court for the interpretation of certain things which was causing problems. We have now resolved that. We know what is displeasing to each one and we have resolved to come together to sort it out. Technically, in principle, it has been resolved. There are no more issues.

Was there any point at which you felt your dad wouldn’t have liked that you and your siblings had a quarrel over this issue?

Yes, of course. We all went to my elder brother’s house. My two younger brothers came here to pick me up and we went to see our elder brother, and we were all so happy to be back together. People would always quarrel, it’s natural. Even my parents, as close as they were, they had their ups and downs, but they always resolved it. What would have been disappointing is if the quarrel became permanent and could not be resolved.

What do you think your dad would have said about it if he were alive?

I can’t say. Naturally, he would not have liked his children quarrelling. There is nothing new under the sun.

What was your dad’s view about the legal profession in Nigeria?

He had a lot of respect for the judges. He said Nigeria had very good judges that could sit in any court in the world and still perform well. The only problem he always noted was that judges were not well remunerated. He felt judges should be given very good welfare packages. He was very proud of our judges.

Would you like to share any funny incident relating to your father?

I remember being present the day Papa had to appear for a case at the Benin High Court. The other side came with their lawyer. Then, Papa had glaucoma and used eye drops regularly in managing it. He argued heatedly in the court on that day. Later, the judge called for a recess. During the recess, Papa sent me to get his eye drops. By the time the judge came back to the court, he had assimilated Papa’s arguments. So, the judge became more amenable to Papa’s submissions. There and then, he gave a ruling in Papa’s favour. The other lawyer now said, “Kai, that man argued and argued, but when the judge no gree, he go put something for eye. The eye come dey show fire, fire, and judge come agree!” But it was simply the eye drop that papa used for his glaucoma.

Was your dad a very sociable person?

Yes, he was very sociable; although, the older he grew, the more he withdrew into his law practice. However, he still attended parties. He was a very good dancer. He could dance Rock and Roll very well. He could do the Fox-trot, he could dance to highlife and juju music.

Did he have any regret?

I don’t think so.

Can you mention the names of some renowned lawyers who passed through your dad’s chambers?

Let me start by mentioning my brother’s names (laughs); Chief Ladi Rotimi Williams (SAN), Tokunbo Rotimi Williams (SAN), and Folarin Williams; they are all accomplished lawyers. And then I can mention Chief Dr. Alfred Bamidele Kasumu (SAN), Mr. Ebun Sofunde (SAN), Kole Abayomi (SAN), Dr. Wale Babalakin (SAN), Chief Mrs. Bola Williams, now Akinjide (SAN), Chief Folake Solanke, the first Nigerian to become a SAN, Jide Ogundipe, and a host of others.

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My father is very romantic — Zeb Ejiro’s son

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Marvin, a son of Zeb Ejiro, talks about his father in this interview with MOTUNRAYO JOEL

Briefly tell us about yourself?

My name is Marvin Ejiro. I am the first son of Zeb Ejiro. I have six siblings. I am a graduate of the University of Nigeria, Nsukka. I studied Mass Communication. I had my primary and secondary education at a private school in Ajegunle, Lagos. I currently run my own entertainment outfit. At the same time, I’m an upcoming artiste.

How was your childhood?

My childhood was interesting but I spent part of it with my grandmother who was based in Ilorin, Kwara State. I came to Lagos in 1991 to live with my parents. Despite the challenges we faced as a family, we were able to maintain a strong bound. We didn’t allow any storm to tear us apart. While growing up, my siblings and I didn’t really know my father was popular. Sometimes, when we saw his name or face on television, it felt strange to us.

How does your father behave at home?

My father is jovial and fun to be with. He likes entertaining people with jokes, but there are times when he is really strict. Despite his financial freedom, he taught my brothers and me how to be men. He didn’t want any of us to depend on his money. I will be forever grateful to him for that because today, my siblings and I are all doing well for ourselves. He also has a listening ear; whenever any of us was passing through any challenge; he always tried to calm the situation.

While in school did he visit you often?

He was very busy. I think the only time he visited us was during one of our inter-house sports competitions. Other times, he sent his employees to check up on us.

With his busy schedule, how does he spend time with your mother?

He enjoys staying at home with her despite his busy schedule. Whenever he decides to spend time with my mother, nothing would take him out of the house. He loves to buy her gifts. Back then we couldn’t understand why he was always buying her gifts; now we understand (smiles). My dad also likes organising parties in the house; he is a good singer and dancer.

Did your siblings follow him in his profession?

My sisters didn’t probably because they are married, but we, the men, especially me, took after him. Growing up, I used to go with him to shoot movies. I still remember how he would make his casts rehearse their roles several times. My father is a perfectionist. Even though I didn’t follow him in the path of movie production, it is something I hope to do later on.

Didn’t he try to influence his children on their career choices?

No, he did not. My father is not one to do that. He believes a child should be independent and make his or her decisions personally. The only thing he did was to give us guidelines on how to achieve our career goals. I’ve always loved music, thus when I told him about my passion, he supported me. But I still have a flair for writing stories. I hope to start my own production firm soon.

What is your father’s temperament like?

I won’t say my father’s temperament is 100 per cent fine. He can be nice but when he gets upset, you don’t want to be around him, though, he is quick to cool down. When he is in a jovial mood, he is fun to be with. He gets easily irritated especially if he keeps correcting you on the same mistake. Times like that he is quick to beat, my father doesn’t spare us. Some other times he corrects us verbally.

What challenges did he face before he got his big breakthrough?

Surprisingly, some months ago, I asked him the same question. He told me his journey to success was a tough one and that things weren’t rosy for him. Years backs, during the British colonial rule in Nigeria, some white men came to train Nigerians who wanted to be movie makers. He applied and was selected for the training programme. After shooting his first movie, he had serious issues with finances. He literally kept walking from one company to another in search of support until one fateful day. On that day, he went to a production house and asked one of the employees to help him make a copy of his movie. My father told me that while the man was making the copy, the manager of the company walked into the studio, saw the movie playing and fell in love with it. The next day, they asked him to come to their studio, after discussing the terms and conditions, his movie went on air. After then, things changed; he got his first breakthrough. This is not to say that he didn’t encounter other challenges, he still did. Gathering his casts all at one location was a huge challenge too because phones weren’t available then. Even bringing out the best in his casts was a challenge. Unlike now when acting has taken a new dimension.

How would you describe your parents’ marriage?

They are a beautiful couple, though when I was a child, I didn’t know much about marriage. However, with the little I saw, I admired them. Though, they encountered challenges too, my father was able to calm situations and they didn’t let them affect us.

How did he handle disagreements with your mother?

He handled disagreements well most of the time. When he needed to be patient, he was patient. My parents had to constantly forgive themselves.

What do you admire most about your parents’ marriage?

They know how to sail through storms and my father is a lover boy, he loves to buy his wife gifts even when there is no special occasion. Sometimes, he really buys her expensive gifts.

Who were the famous faces you saw at home?

I saw quite a few, but the ones I can remember are Liz Benson, Saint Obi, Kate Henshaw, Ramsey Noah and some others. Most of them used to come to our house to shoot movies.

How sociable is he?

My father is one of the most sociable men I’ve seen. Whenever he is in a good mood, there is no dull moment. He keeps you laughing all the way. He is also a good actor. You also need to see him dance; he is a good dancer. He knows how to interact with any one of no matter the age difference.

What is his favourite food?

His favourite is agbu with vegetable.

What is his favourite drink?

He likes red wine.

What is it you like about him?

He is a good mentor when it comes to movie production. He likes to take giant strides, he doesn’t settle for less. He is also a goal getter, one who loves to take risks.

And what don’t you like about him?

My father can be generous to a fault; sometimes people take advantage of him. This is one character trait I don’t like in him.

Growing up, can you remember your most memorable moment with your father?

We shared so many memorable moments together, but I can still remember vividly the nights he used to bring home horror movies. I was scared watching them but he loved them. After watching them, my siblings and I would be scared of going to bed. Till today, I still enjoy watching horror movies because I think they are creative and they inspire me to write. Also, during Christmas periods, he used to take us out to eateries, buy us clothes and so much more.

What kind of movies does he enjoy watching?

He likes watching African and American movies, basically any movie with a good storyline, but he loves watching Indian movies.

Where does he see himself in the next five years?

He hopes to be greater and to have moved to a higher level.

Who does he look up to in the movie industry?

I think he has many role models, but I don’t know their names. Outside the movie industry, I can say that he looks up to God a lot whenever he wants to make a movie. He doesn’t joke with his prayer time. He usually says that there is little a man can do to excel and that success is from God.

How does he get his inspiration?

He gets his inspiration majorly from God. He also uses personal encounters to write storylines, especially if it is an emotional experience. He also uses realistic, touchy scenarios that happen in our society to write his storylines. For example, one of his movies titled Good Bye Tomorrow was about a lady who contacted HIV/AIDS and died. It was a touchy movie, the movie also focused on prostitution and other factors that endanger the lives of ladies. Those are the types of issues he likes to turn into movies. He feels they would project the meaning to the society because they are experiences we live with.

What does he say about piracy?

He is totally against piracy; he thinks the problem has negatively affected the industry. Most times, so much money goes into the production of these movies, it is so heart-breaking when one sees their movies being sold on the streets. He wishes the problem can be totally eradicated for good.

Does he have plans to open a movie academy?

He already has one running in Delta State, it is called Faba. There, he trains upcoming movie producers.

We are in the era of politics, what does he say about Nigeria and her future?

He only wishes that Nigeria’s forthcoming president would come into power to serve the people and not his interests. He says Nigeria is a good nation with great potential and that one of the things stopping us from exceling is corruption.

What does your father say about the current Nollywood industry?

He admires what is going on in the industry. He says our movies have taken a new turn for the better. He always celebrates upcoming movie producers. At the same time, he constantly criticises movies that have no substance; he says those who are destroying the industry are doing a good job too. He said nowadays, a good number of our movies shouldn’t be aired because they have no storylines.

What does his schedule look like?

He usually wakes up quite early to pray, and then if he has no early morning appointment, he goes out for a quick jog. When he returns home he takes his bath and breakfast. But days when he has an early morning appointment, he leaves the house quite early. My father doesn’t like arriving late to meetings. He often comes back home around 8 or 9 pm. On the days he doesn’t have to go out, he enjoys spending time with his wife.

How does he behave when he is producing a movie?

My father is a really serious person and he always wants the best. He makes his casts rehearse their roles several times even if they got it right the first time. On occasions when I join him, I get a bit upset. I’ll be like ‘but dad this is good’ and he would say, ‘no, it can be better’. He is a perfectionist. At the same time, he creates a relaxed atmosphere for his casts. He laughs with them and cracks jokes with them.

If he were not into movies what do you think he would be doing?

He loves singing and dancing, he is an entertainer. Whenever we have functions, he is the most jovial. I think he would have done something in that line (smiles).

What does he do when he wakes and before he sleeps?

I guess the first thing he does is pray. I’ve seen him several times praying quite early in the morning. And the last thing he does is before going to bed is also pray.

Does he read what people write about him in the paper?

Yes he does, he buys the newspapers every day. Apart from reading what was written about him, he likes to know the latest news in the industry.

Does he get upset when something bad is written about him?

My father is very good at handling criticisms; he doesn’t let things affect his emotions. He takes what he wants to hear, what will be of benefit to him and discards the rest.

What has been his lowest moment?

His lowest moments are when he has misunderstandings with his wife, he doesn’t like it. I think that is the only thing that can weigh him down.

Does he advise you on the type of woman to marry?

He always does, he says I should be more focused on my career. He says no woman wants to marry a man who can’t provide for her. He also warns me against getting a lady pregnant before marriage. He always encourages me to make money before getting married, that way one will have respect.

How does he like to dress?

My father has a good sense of combination when it comes to clothes. Sometimes he likes to dress like a youth other times he likes to dress smart.

How does he handle female admirers?

He handles it just the way he is supposed to handle it. Being in the entertainment, he is bound to have female admirers but he knows where to draw the line. Once he is at home, he shuts off from work and focuses on his wife. She also understands the nature of his job.

Where does he see himself in future?

He hopes to go international, beyond the shores of Nigeria or even Africa.

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There’s no boring moment with dad — Eyitayo Lambo’s daughter

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Dolapo is one of the daughters of a former Minister of Health, Eyitayo Lambo. She talks about her father’s medical practice and life with MOTUNRAYO JOEL

Briefly introduce yourself.

My name is Dolapo Famakinwa (nee Lambo). I am the last born of the Lambo family.

Where did you receive primary, secondary and tertiary education?

I had my education in Ibadan, Ilorin, United States and the United Kingdom.

How was your childhood life?

My childhood was interesting, my siblings and I are blessed with great parents. They laid a very strong foundation for us and we have fond memories of our upbringing till date. Every day, I thank God that we are blessed with wonderful parents.

Did your father visit you often while you were studying?

I attended day schools, but my parents interacted with my school teachers. They also attended parent-teacher association meetings and they were well-informed of the school activities. They did the same for my siblings. My parents are exceptional. Their interest in our academic activities positively affected our grades.

Did you follow in your father’s career footsteps?

I would say yes and no for various reasons which I prefer not to talk about.

What are the career choices of your siblings?

My siblings and I are all doing well in our various disciplines. We all have a vast combination of expertise and life experiences, which include Business/Accounting, Information Technology, Entrepreneurship and Public Health.

Did your father impose any career choice on his children?

No, my father did not impose any career choice on us. He and my mother have always guided us with words of advice on our choices of career. I can proudly say that we (children) are doing excellently well because of their constant words of advice.

Describe your father’s personality at home?

For the most part, my father is quiet at home. He is a man of very few words. He is an introvert. He also writes and reads a lot.

How has his name opened doors for you?

My siblings and I are blessed to have him. He has a good name that people respect.

How do people react when they know you are his daughter?

They become more interested in me and they speak well of my father to me.

What can you say about his childhood?

If not for the grace of God, we can do not know how he was able to overcome his life challenges from childhood. That is all I can say.

What were the challenges he faced as a minister?

My father was the minister of health for a term. He served between 2003 and 2007 during the administration of Olusegun Obasanjo. During his tenure, we think the main challenges he faced were the lingering polio cases in the country and the deplorable state of hospitals in Nigeria. Others included managing the lack of cooperation amongst the health professionals and positioning the National Health Insurance Scheme on a firm footing for accelerated universal coverage within the shortest possible time after its launch. The other challenge was the fact that he was a technocrat, not a politician. As a minister, he worked relentlessly to ensure that his plans were clearly laid out and initiatives implemented to the best of his ability but he might not have scored 100 per cent in getting the full commitment of the civil servants who often pose as cogs in the wheel of progress. It is, however, on record and from different testimonials that there was relative peace among health professionals during his tenure.

How would you describe your parents’ marriage?

Their marriage is one I would describe as highly successful and blessed. Our parents have had an amazingly close relationship for over 44 years. Both of them have different love languages. They have had to make multiple sacrifices for each other, for the family and have remained happily married through it all. Their strong bond is a blessing to us the children.

How does he handle disagreements with your mother?

Like any happily married couple, daddy handles disagreements with my mother by talking with her. He talks the issues through with her and they pray over them.

Did your father advise you on the type of man to marry?

My father and mother advised each of us to be very prayerful and to decide our respective spouses based on the ‘why, ‘how’ and ‘what’ of the relationship.

Who were the famous faces you saw at home while growing up?

The public faces that my siblings and I saw at home included the late Professor and Dr. (Mrs.) Adeoye Lambo; the late Professor Ransome-Kuti; and the late Chief (Mrs.) Stella Obasanjo among others.

How sociable is your father?

My father is very intentional about his social life and he is only social for specific purposes, including church activities. He does not drink alcohol and is not a smoker. He also does not attend social venues such as nightclubs, golf clubs, etc. He is quite reserved and enjoys his quiet life, watching the TV, especially news stations.

What is his favourite food?

My father’s favorite food is Eba and to ensure that this is prepared well with no ‘lumps’, he prefers to make it himself!

What is his favourite drink?

My father’s current favourite drink appears to be either prune juice for health benefits or water most of the time.

How is his temperament?

My father’s overall temperament is quiet, passive but watchful.

What do you like about your father?

I love my father dearly, he is a father indeed. Overall, my siblings and I love the leadership qualities that he exhibits. He is always excited about our achievements and easily pleased with our little gifts. To him, nothing is too small. He appreciates every little thing we do.

What are the things you like about him?

There is nothing I do not like about him. He is an excellent father.

How does he discipline his children?

My father scolds mildly and withdraws.

Did he ever spank any of his children?

No, there was no such moment from what I can recall.

How does he handle criticisms?

My father hates being misunderstood. This is one thing he dislikes.

What is his position on the naira-dollar issue, taking into consideration that our currency has weakened drastically against the dollar?

My father feels the country has the potential to diversify the economy in order to stem the tide.

What does he enjoy doing at the moment?

He still likes reading, writing and consulting

What is his view on the state of Nigeria’s health sector?

He feels a lot has been done by successive governments and ministers. But that the Federal Government and the states still need to increase financing through higher budgetary allocation in order to catch up with the technology of the western world and that of some developing countries in Asia, Europe and Africa. This is his view.

Does he think the Federal Government’s budgetary allocation for health is good enough?

My father certainly does not feel so.

Is he jovial at home?

My father is jovial at home. There is no boring moment with him.

What is the first thing he does when he wakes up and what does he do before going to bed?

My father prays with his family every morning and in the evenings.

Does he read what people write about him in the newspapers?

Yes, he does.

What has been his lowest moment or most trying period that you know?

My father’s lowest moment was when there was a civil war in Congo Brazzaville and he was desperate to return home.

How does your father like to dress?

Sometimes, he likes to dress as a university lecturer/ professor or as an international civil servant with the World Health Organisation. He would be in suits at such times. But as a minister and after retirement, he has been more comfortable with wearing complete traditional Yoruba outfits for social events. He likes wearing buba and sokoto as casual wears.

In the political sector, who is your father’s favourite individual?

It must be former President Olusegun Obasanjo.

How does he advise you on issues related to money?

My father constantly tells us that we should not be wasteful but to always save for the rainy day.

What does he say about President Goodluck Jonathan and his administration?

He wishes him well, knowing that Nigeria is a difficult country to govern.

Are there things he wished he had done when he was a minister?

None that I know of. He did his best as a minister.

Describe your father in few words?

I am speaking on behalf of my siblings. I can boldly say that our father is a caring and loving husband to our mother. He is a doting father and grandfather. He is a very strategic and focused person. He is a dependable provider for his family.

Is he religious?

Yes, he is deeply religious and God–fearing.

Is he health-conscious?

Yes, he takes care of his health and exercises regularly.

How does he relax?

He enjoys going on vacations with his family.

What is the thing Nigerians didn’t know about your father?

One thing that Nigerians didn’t know about daddy is that he’s not an overnight success. He had big dreams from a far distance. He has been a quiet and consistent hard worker but with a very supportive wife (our mother) working and praying behind the scene. My mother has wholeheartedly supported his dreams, even when it meant that hers was put on hold for my father to become what he is today.

Where does he see himself in the next five years?

He hopes to be an impactful mentor who will be relevant in his local community.

How does he plan to celebrate his 80th birthday?

It is going to be a low-key celebration.

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Dad didn’t want to be the richest publisher — Olu Anulopo’s son

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Femi is one of the sons of the first Nigerian representative, Macmillan Publishers, Mr. Olu Anulopo. He talks about his father’s success story with MOTUNRAYO JOEL

Briefly introduce yourself

My name is Femi Anulopo. I am a publisher. I’m married to Adenike and we have three lovely kids.

Where did you have your primary, secondary and tertiary education?

I had my primary education at Orita-Mefa Baptist Nursery/Primary School, Ibadan. My secondary education was at St. Patrick’s Grammar School, Orita-Basorun, Ibadan, after which I moved to the University of Ilorin for my tertiary education. I obtained a Masters in Business Administration at Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Osun State.

How was your childhood?

It’s difficult to describe exactly what it looked like; not only because it was a long time ago, but because there were many events that shaped me as a youth. My childhood was fun and memorable because there was peace, stability and security of lives and property. Back then, Nigeria was a loving place to be, everyone lived happily together, not minding their religion and the economy was in good shape.

Did your father visit you often in school?

My father always made time for us despite his busy schedule. Anytime he was around, he would travel down to the University of Ilorin and he also visited a few times when I was at Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife.

Did you follow him in his line of profession?

Yes, I guess it’s because I grew up loving his profession. I still remember those days he used to take me to his office, it was fun.

What career paths did your siblings choose?

My eldest sister decided to go into business, she is based in Lagos. My brothers and I all work together in the family business. I have another sister who is an educationist in the United States.

Did your father impose any career choice on his children?

No, he didn’t. My father believes children should be free to choose their career paths. I consult my father for advice during times when I find it hard taking a decision and he has always been supportive.

How has your dad’s name helped you?

I can’t begin to recount instances when his name helped me, but bearing the name ‘Anulopo’ has helped me in many ways and I’m really grateful.

What kind of father is he?

My father is very jovial at home. He is a friendly and listening father, highly principled and approachable man. He is a very wonderful man.

What are the values you have learnt from your father?

The first and major one is to be good to people regardless of their status, religion or ethnic leanings. He always says it pays to be good to others. I have imbibed this and I try to be good to anybody I encounter in my daily interactions. He has also taught me patience and honesty. These are the core values I appreciate in him and do thank him for instilling them in me. I am also trying to make sure those close to me exhibit same to people around them.

I think I’ve learnt so much from him. However, the values I’ve imbibed and cherish include generosity, hard work and humility.

What is that thing Nigerians don’t know about your father?

He likes to sing.

Has his name given you special privileges you would not have enjoyed if you weren’t his son?

Coming from a family with a popular name, it tends to affect the way people see and treat you. But for the most part, I think it’s a point of pride for me that at some critical points in my life, a lot of the decisions I made were done independently.

What were the challenges your dad faced when he started the Macmillan brand?

The challenges were humongous. According to him, Macmillan Publishers started from inside the Ford Cortina station wagon which he cleared from the ports upon his appointment as the Nigerian representative. The car contained samples of books and catalogues. Meanwhile, there were other publishers such as Learn Africa (then Longman) and University Press Plc (then Oxford University Press), Heinemann, Evans Brothers and Thomas Nelson (with Ogboju Ode) that were already fully established in the country by 1962.

Macmillan Publishers is a big and popular brand, how was your father able to maintain that standard?

In his time, he laid strong ethical values and he had teams that were committed to his vision for Macmillan.

How would you describe your parents’ marriage?

The marriage was first solemnised in heaven; I can proudly say that they are like Siamese twins.

How does he handle disagreements with your mother?

Calmly and respectfully, we (children) don’t get to know about their quarrels. Growing up, I used to think my parents never argued because I’ve never seen them have an argument. But I think they have a good form of communication and they talk to each other a lot. Their faith too has played a big role in their successful marriage.

Did your father advise you on the type of woman to marry?

Yes, he did, and his constant words of advice paid off. I’m proud to say that he is the best father.

Who were the famous faces you saw at home while growing up?

The Rt. Hon. Harold Macmillan, the late Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the late Dr. Taiwo Solarin, the Oyewole Twins and many more.

How sociable is your father?

My father isn’t the partying type; he enjoys his private time.

What is his favourite food?

His favourite food is pounded yam with egusi soup.

What is his favourite drink?

He likes to drink water most of the time.

How do you feel being his son?

I feel proud and honoured. It is my prayer that people will speak positive things about me more than they speak about my father.

Are there things you think people expect from you as his son and as a publisher?

There are some people who think that having served my father; they should reap the gains from me. I try to be diplomatic in my approach. The ones that I can handle I do and those that I cannot, I stay away from.

What pieces of advice does he constantly give you?

My father appreciates the fact that I am respectful but he constantly reminds me to remain so. He also advises me to be tolerant of people and be honest in whatever I do. I do not forget any of them. I continually remember them daily.

How is his temperament?

It takes a long time to really get him angry. He doesn’t get angry, he is a calm person.

What do you cherish most about your dad?

A lot of things, I cherish the fact that he is still alive and he has been a very good father. What’s there not to be happy about? I cherish everything about my dad.

And what don’t you like about him?

As a pacifist, people tend to take him for granted.

How close are you to him?

He is my good friend. We are very close. In fact, the love between us is so strong that my siblings are aware of it. Till date, our relationship is like that of brothers and friends.

How does he discipline his children?

He prefers to admonish than spank. He isn’t one that beats his children.

But growing up, did he ever spank any of his children?

He very rarely spanked us.

Did he have time for his family?

He always had time for his family, he doesn’t joke with his family.

How does he handle criticisms?

He likes constructive criticisms but resents those that are baseless. He says everyone has an opinion and is entitled to his or her opinion. However, he listens to advice and criticisms from people who are much older than he is. He usually gives their advice a second thought, and doesn’t just brush them off.

Who is his favourite president?

Dad’s favourite President is General Gowon (retd.)

Who are his role models?

Every upright and modest leader.

Is he jovial at home?

Yes, he is very jovial and interesting.

What is the first thing he does when he wakes up and the last thing he does before going to bed?

He says his prayers.

Does he read what people write about him in newspapers?

He is a very private person.

What has been his lowest moment or most trying period that you know?

Perhaps when he lost his first child at birth and also when he lost his head of marketing at Macmillan in 1981.

Did he fight in the Biafra war?

No, he didn’t.

How does your father like to dress?

He dresses mostly in native-buba teamed with agbada.

Concerning religion, who are his role models?

I think it was the late Pope John Paul II.

What is his advice to you when it comes to money?

I guess his ambition was not to be the richest publisher of his time and he had always advised us not to chase money at the expense of our good name, credibility and integrity.

What does he say about President Goodluck Jonathan?

President Goodluck Jonathan is a lucky person to be President after the death of President Musa Yar ‘Adua. One is, however, sad that his government cannot conquer Boko Haram not to talk of saving the lives of the over 200 Chibok girls.

What does he do to keep himself busy?

He spends most of his time in church; he is always engaged in church activities.

Macmillan Publishers produced educational materials majorly, was your father ever a teacher?

No, but he trained as a marketer in the United Kingdom and developed himself further in the course of his career.

What is his view about the education sector?

The government of Nigeria is doing its best to ensure that there is education for every child of school age in Nigeria. If there is going to be free education for every child of school age, let it be quality education by providing textbooks and the entire infrastructure. Also, the Nigerian Educational Research and Development Council is doing a lot to produce adequate curriculum for every level. Yet at the end of the day, maybe at West African Examinations Council or National Examinations Council, there is mass failure in examinations due to inadequate teaching and learning. I commend government for its efforts, yet, there is room for improvement on future policies. The stakeholders should be involved and teacher training is very important.

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Dad had a special cane for unruly children — Peter Fatomilola’s son

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Oladosu is one of the children of veteran actor, Peter Fatomilola. He talks about his father’s acting career and gift of incantatory poetry with GBENGA ADENIJI

Tell us briefly about yourself.

I am Oladosu, the second child of Mr. Peter Fatomilola. I studied Yoruba Language and Literature at the Obafemi Awolowo University, Ile-Ife, Osun State. I also hold a diploma certificate in Dramatic Arts and Yoruba Oral Literature from the same university. I am into acting, directing, producing, documentary packaging, teaching, voicing of jingle, production management, radio and television presentation, chanting Yoruba poetry including media consultancy.

Was it your father who influenced your interest in acting?

It is my passion for acting, lecturing and other related fields that influenced my interest. My father only encouraged me and my other siblings to do what is convenient and which we have interest and passion for as long as it is legal. He did not force any particular discipline or career on any of us. But he advised and encouraged us on what we chose to do.

He believes in our career choices and supports us. But notwithstanding, he will not hesitate to call us to advise us if there is need to do so on whatever we are doing. Also, my father loves my job as a broadcaster. So, directly or indirectly, he influenced my interest in broadcasting.

Can you remember some fond memories of your growing up with him?

I grew up to know him as a good father. He loves me and my other siblings dearly. This he has demonstrated to us many times. There were times he borrowed money to pay for our school fees. He was always downcast whenever he had no money to meet our needs. When we were young, we used to see how happy he was whenever he had money to cater for our needs.

My father talks and plays with us as if we are his mates. He is very accommodating. He used to tell us stories when we were growing up. He likes to recite some odu-ifa (oracle corpus) stanzas or verses and likes telling us the stories and lessons attached to the recitation. My father taught me many things through the odu-ifa recitation which reflects life and the philosophy of life. He still recites the oracle corpus to us anytime we are together at home or working with him on the farm. He is also a farmer and has a big farm. Most times when he is working on the farm, he chants ijala (hunter’s chant), esa egungun (masquerader’s chant) and iyere-ifa (oracle chant) to energise himself so as not to get tired easily. I learnt all these chants from him unconsciously without him teaching me. I always ask him questions on certain words or phrases I heard from him when he is chanting and he will explain with interesting stories and events relating to them. I am always happy being with him.

What do you find most interesting about his job?

What I find most interesting about my father’s job is that he loves what he is doing. Besides, his job has earned him a lot of respect, recognition and fame. Also, he is very happy with what he does because he likes making people happy. These are the things I found most interesting about his job.

What kind of actor do you think he is whenever you watch him acting?

I see him as an actor that is an embodiment of African culture and an actor per excellence. He is one actor with impressive details on any role given to him. Even when he is not saying anything on set or stage, his look alone and gesture carry a lot of massage.

In all the films he has featured in, which is your favourite and why?

My favourite among all the films my father has featured in is Afonja. This is because the movie speaks volumes about the genesis of betrayal and distrust in Yoruba land till date. If one watches the movie with critical mind, one will see how the Yoruba can retrace their steps and know where they went wrong.

Though he has featured in many movies that really interest me, I have not watched all of them. I am not sure my father can tell the number of movies and television programmes he has featured in since he started acting. I do not even have enough time to watch movies like my wife does. Notwithstanding, I still try to watch meaningful Nigerian movies.

Who are his friends?

My father’s first friends are his children. Since we were young, he enjoys playing with us whenever he is at home. If he was at any location for a long time, he often took permission to come home to see us. As children, we used to climb his back and run around him. I allow my children to the do same with me now. He has many friends. All his fans are his friends and he also has some friends who are his children’s age mates. He however does not relate with people of questionable characters.

Many of his colleagues are his good friends. They understand one another very well. They crack jokes and relate well. He is someone who caters for his extended family members. He is also very accommodating. Some of his relations lived with us while we were young. There was a time I wanted to add him as a friend on facebook but I could not because his account had already reached the friends limit while many were still trying to add him as friend. That shows the extent of how his fans like him.

How did he punish any child who did something wrong?

He hardly punished us when we were young because we tried not to offend him. In actual fact, we know what he wants and what he does not want. We do not like doing what can get him angry. We prefer to do what will make him to love us more. If anyone of us does anything wrong in my father’s presence even now, the way he will look at the child will make him or her to know he or she has done wrong. He prefers to talk to us rather than lose his temper whenever he notices anything he does not like from anyone of us. If my mother or anyone should report us to him about any untoward act, he would call the offending child and ask questions.

If the child continued with such nasty attitude, he would use his special cane on the offending child. There was a day he beat me with the cane and I cried as if I would never cry again. I begged him but he would not stop. He beat me to the extent that my palms turned red and blood came out yet my father did not stop. When he eventually stopped, my hands were soaked in blood. I later told myself that I must have really provoked him to beat me that way. When I greeted him the following morning, he answered and hugged me. He asked me to sit down and counselled me. He is a good man. I love him so much.

Where were the places he took his family to for relaxation?

He used to take us to the pit theatre in the Department of Dramatic Arts of the OAU to watch plays.

How does he like to dress?

He loves to dress simply. He wears casual outfits whether native or English dresses.

What is his favourite drink?

My father’s favourite drink is palm wine and Goldberg beer. He really does not drink much now unlike when he was young.

What is his favourite food?

His favourite food is iyan (pounded yam). He also likes a type of bean cake known as ekuru and eko (pap)

What are the ideals he taught you?

My father taught me the values of hard work, honesty and sincerity. He taught us to love people, forgive others and live a prayerful life.

What is his schedule like?

I cannot really say what his normal schedule is like now. The situation at hand and work on ground often determine his schedule. But when I was in the secondary school, I recall that my father would wake up early in the morning to pray. After praying, he would prepare for work at the Dramatic Arts Department of the OAU. He is not a lazy man. On weekends, he would wake up early to go to his farm and return to relax later.

How sociable is he?

He has a simple social life. He does not copy anyone to form a particular lifestyle. He is a natural man.

Your father is gifted with incantatory poetry, did he teach you this art?

My father is knowledgeable in incantatory poetry as evident in his roles in films. On whether he taught me this unique Yoruba art, my answer is yes. He did teach me. First, I know it is inborn, secondly, I learnt many Yoruba oral poetry from him unconsciously. Like I said earlier, whenever we are on the farm, he likes to chant oral poetry while I listen with rapt attention.

How many wives does he have?

My father has two wives and my mother is the first.

How does he settle disagreements with them?

I grew up to know that if my father has any misunderstanding with my mother, he will call her inside to talk rather than scold her in our presence. If it is an issue that really bothers him, he will dress and leave the house, saying ‘Mo wi temi’( I have said my own). And by the time he returns, he will not mention the issue again. Sometimes, he can utter a rich Yoruba proverb as he leaves the house after an argument. He does the same to my step-mother.

In what ways has his name opened doors for you?

My father’s name has opened doors for me in many ways. People often ask if I am related to Peter Fatomilola whenever they hear my surname. Immediately I tell them he is my father, they are always willing to render any form of assistance to me.

There was a time I was travelling to Europe. At the immigration section, a female officer checked my passport and called my father’s name. I told her that the name on my passport was not Peter Fatomilola but Oladosu Fatomilola. She told me she knew but was only saying the surname rang a bell. She later asked if I knew Peter Fatomilola and I said she just mentioned my father’s name. She exclaimed. People around asked her what happened and she told them that I am a son to Peter Fatomilola. Immediately, they asked one of the officers to give me all the necessary attention I would need. I felt great that day. But I learnt a lesson that if I had done something wrong, that was how I would have drawn attention to myself and my father.

What kind of music does he listen to?

He likes any cool, sensible and meaningful music be it African or from any other part of the world. But largely, he loves music connected to the oracle because it is often laced with life’s philosophy.

How does he relax?

My father relaxes with his choice drinks whether at home or at any of the relaxation centres he visits with his friends or colleagues. In such moment, he will tell ifa (oracle) stories to those around.

Was he into any sports?

Yes, he used to be an athlete when he was young. He won many medals and there are many pictures of him in his house showing when he received prizes for winning races.

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Mum wanted to be a musician —Abike Dabiri-Erewa’s son

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Ayodeji is one of the sons of Hon. Abike Dabiri-Erewa. He talks about his mother, her political career and life with MOTUNRAYO JOEL

Let’s have your brief introduction.

My name is Ayodeji Dabiri-Erewa, I am the second son of Hon. Abike Dabiri-Erewa. I studied Electrical and Electronic Engineering in Communications at University College, London. I recently relocated to Nigeria, I’m through with my National Youth Service Corps scheme and I’m currently working at a start-up company, where we do indoor advertising. My elder brother works at an oil and gas company and we are both happy to be back in Nigeria.

Can you talk about your mother’s personality?

Growing up, she had to be very tough on us because she was a single mother. She trained us well, taking into consideration the nature of her job; she was able to balance work and family.   Raising my brother and I was a joint effort because sometimes, she dedicated responsibilities to my cousins and aunts. Even my brother had his own share of responsibilities . My mother didn’t believe anyone was too small to handle responsibilities. She was also very involved with our school work— she never missed parents/teachers meetings and she helped with our assignments. My mother remained strict till we went to secondary school, she then allowed us a bit of independence. Then, our relationship changed, she became friendlier and more loving.

How was growing up?

It was great, we didn’t lack anything. I had a normal, humble upbringing. We were all very close with our extended family. You can describe us as one big family. My childhood was spread across Lagos — Festac, Ogba, Surulere, Victoria Island. It was like parents exchanging children. I had a great time. My mother did her best for us and enrolled us in excellent schools. She made sure we stayed focused in school. We had a good time. My first primary school was at Ogba, a school called Ebunoluwa, and then I later moved to Air Force Primary School, Victoria Island and Greenwood House School, Ikoyi. My secondary education was at Loyola Jesuit College, Abuja.

Did she visit you often in school?

While in the secondary school, she used to come almost everyday. But while in the university, she visited us often but not every month.

How was it growing up without your father around?

I have many fathers in my life. Honestly, it wasn’t an issue. My extended family and my family are are closely-knit and they played a big role in raising my brother and I.

How did she handle reports about her first marriage?

She remained focused on her family and career—she didn’t let such disturb her. I guess her hard work paid off because she has been successful in her career. I think everything made her more hardworking as a professional and mother because she didn’t have the margin for error when she was a single mother.

How do people react when they hear your surname?

It depends on where I am, but I try not to say my surname every time because it comes with a bit of attention. Sometimes, people are able to spot the resemblance even without me introducing myself, this happens quite often. At the end of the day, it’s something I’m grateful for. I hear great comments about her, some people, especially women, say if they would ever go into politics, it’s because of her. I am grateful for all what she has done for herself.

What special privileges have you enjoyed being her son?

Sometimes, when I’m at the airport and Nigerian Immigration officers see my passport, they allow me easy passage and say, ‘You can go, Aunty Abike’s son, please go, we love what your mother is doing.’ They don’t even ask for anything in return, it is humbling.

How did your family handle her move from journalism to politics?

She discussed the decision with me and my brother before making the move. I believe, for her, it was the next logical step to take because she loves helping people out. I call her ‘Aunty Abike’ because she has so many children. Quite a number of people call her that too. She was born to serve, and we knew it was something she wanted to do. We supported her decision.

Were there times you were scared for her life?

Yes, usually during election periods. There was a time gunshots were heard at one of the political rallies she was at, but we thank God she was well protected. We are grateful for everything.

Does she plan to fully retire from politics soon?

She has pulled out from contesting for the House of Representatives seat. She has been there for 12 years and has served her people with honour, dignity and passion. Nobody can tell her she didn’t do a good job. Though, if somebody calls her to serve in a political or private capacity, if she thinks it’s something she can do, she may give it a try. I know her future is bright.

But why did she pull out from contesting?

Politics is not a do-or-die affair; one should retire after one has served well. For her, it was a personal decision and we supported her decision. It is rare for Nigerian politicians to retire from politics.

What does she say about women and politics?

She says a woman is endowed with power, strength, grace and energy to do anything she wants. We live in a society that naturally favours men. In political appointments, that is the trend. But she thinks one’s gender, age, and tribe shouldn’t hold one back. One needs to distinguish oneself and make work stand out. This has been her principle. She feels we need more women and youth in politics.

Do you have plans to go into politics?

Not in the immediate future. Initially, I was against it, but I’ve been paying more attention to politics and I’ve realised we all can’t keep complaining and not stand up for change—there is the need to stand up and make a change. People think politics is a dirty game, but there is nothing worthwhile that isn’t difficult.

How was she able to carve a niche for herself and emerge as one of the most successful women in politics?

She was extremely dedicated to the job. There were a lot of things given to her that may have been considered little, but she was able to turn them into big things. She built them into things people began to take notice of. When she was appointed the Chairman, House Committee on Diaspora Matters, no one knew or heard anything about it. But today, Nigerians abroad now see her as someone they could go to for such issues. It is because of her hard work. She puts in her best in anything she does. She is also honest, straightforward and does her work very well.

On a lighter note, how long has she been friends with Funmi Ajila-Ladipo?

Their friendship has been on for ages. We grew up with Aunty Funmi’s children, I can’t think of when she became a factor in my mother’s life. She was just always there; they go out to big events together, dress alike and are very close.

How long do they take to dress up?

Surprisingly, my mother doesn’t take much time in dressing up; I’m not sure about Aunty Funmi.My mother may spend a bit much time on her make-up —probably 30 minutes. We don’t wait too long for her.

What does your mother splurge money on?

I believe because of the nature of her job, she spends money on spa treatments. When she is going to the spa, we collect her phones because she doesn’t like to be disturbed throughout that day. We don’t disturb her when she is at the spa.

What kind of mother is she?

She likes to know who are children’s friends are and she relates well with our friends. She likes to be involved in what we do. She is trustworthy and loves to trust people. From a young age, she used to give my brother and I money to keep for her. My mother basically knows all I do; I don’t hide things from her and she is easy-going.

Did she impose her career choice on her children?

Not at all, all she wanted was for us to have an idea of what we wanted and have a laid out plan on how to achieve it. She regularly mentored us on how to achieve our goals.

Does your mother advise you and your brother on the type of woman to date?

No. Her principle is, ‘be happy with whoever you choose.’ This is all that matters to her. After how her first marriage turned out, she says one can plan a relationship or marriage, but at the end of the day, God determines how it turns out. She tells us to choose someone that makes us happy.

Speaking about second marriage, did she tell you about it at the initial stage?

Yes, it was something we discussed at length. Even before their relationship got serious, she let my brother and I know of him. At that time, we were about leaving Nigeria, and we were quite happy to share the responsibility of taking care of her with her new husband. We supported her decision.

Describe their marriage?

Their marriage is excellent, it is a great example of two different people coming together to become one. Their marriage has blossomed because they understand each other and they are mature. From their marriage, I’ve learnt that if two people care about each other, nothing can affect their union. Though she isn’t perfect, there are some things she didn’t teach us which her husband was able to educate us on.

What values have you imbibed from her?

Hard work. She has taught me to keep my head down and focus on my job. She doesn’t have time for unnecessary things. When one works hard, people will call one to appreciate one’s work. She has also taught me forgiveness. She is someone that forgives a lot; she doesn’t have time for grudges. I’ve also learnt how to be genuinely kind. She is almost kind to a fault and this is one of the biggest lessons I’ve learnt from her.

What is it that Nigerians don’t know about her?

When she was in the university, she wanted to become a musician and an actress. She was part of band in the university and they used to perform. She still sings one of their songs. She wanted to take it more seriously. She tried auditioning for roles, but I think it didn’t go well.

What challenges did she face at the Nigerian Television Authority?

Initially, I think she wasn’t getting the right reports that displayed her strength. They gave her responsibilities, probably, considered small. But she was able to turn them into something big. Even if one gets something that isn’t what one wants, one can do one’s best to turn it around. That is what she always preaches. I think my mother is able to turn anything into gold. She keeps on pushing ahead; she takes things as far as possible.

How does she handle disagreements with your step-father?

They could have opposing views, but they talk about it and reason things out. Their marriage is just like any other marriage.

Who were the famous faces you saw at home?

She was the most famous face I saw. But then, I saw governors and ex-commissioners. But she likes to keep her family away from her work life. She is a private person and her perfect Sunday is to sleep, laze around in the house and relax.

Describe her daily schedule?

She is always on the move a lot. A big part of her schedule is travelling. She has a flexible schedule .

How sociable is she?

She is a friendly person but she doesn’t go out of her way to be overly social.

What is her favourite food?

Beans and plantain, but of late, she likes it with fish head. If you give her beans, plantain and fish head, you have taken her to heaven!

How do you feel being her child?

It is very humbling; I don’t take all she has achieved for granted. Even meeting important people in Nigeria whenever I go out with her, is a blessing. It is just an example of how far hard work can get you.

How close are you to her?

We are very close, we speak on phone regularly.

Where does she see herself in the next five years?

The future is bright, we are working on some things as a family, it depends on how things take shape after the elections, but she may make a comeback to politics, she may surprise everyone, it is an option.

What are her weaknesses?

Kindness. She is kind and there are times when people offend her but she is quick to forgive them. She doesn’t bear grudges, I feel she needs to be a bit sensitive to people who have wronged her in the past. This is my view.

Does she exercise?

Yes, she exercises regularly.

How does she discipline any child who erred?

If any of us did something wrong, she had a special way of handling things. She would discipline us then and give us soft drinks afterwards. She also used to make us narrate our wrong acts to visitors.

Did she beat any of her children?

Not every time. But if were beaten at school for something we did wrongly, she wouldn’t beat us. But if we weren’t beaten at school, then she would beat us.

Does she use cane?

Not at all, she doesn’t use cane.

How does she like to dress?

She has a lot of suits and native attire. She has many people making clothes for her, but her choice of style depends on the event she wants to attend. She isn’t extravagant in dressing.

What does she do when she wakes and before she sleeps?

She prays, eats and watches the news.

What has been her saddest moment?

I believe early in her career in politics and on the floor of the House, there were bills she tried to sponsor that didn’t go well. One was the Press Council bill, which was to improve professionalism and welfare of journalists. But those who she regarded as friends, who sat down to discuss the bill, were the first to deliberately spread false information about the bill. It wasn’t a great time for her, but because of the kind of person she is, she pulled through everything. That was when she mentally shifted and became a stronger person within. She limited her exposure and became calculated with her decisions. She started to take politics more seriously. It was a sad time for her professionally.

Name things we don’t know about your mother?

She is a funny person. In the scope of her work, her humour may not shine through, but she is funny. She comes from a big family, she has six siblings and numerous relatives. She is a devout Muslim and has gone for Hajj so many times. She says her prayers five times a day. She encourages us be serious with our religion.

What makes her happy?

She enjoys family time and interacting with young people. Youths who have ideas, goals, dreams, she loves advising them.

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No child has beaten dad’s record —Rasheed Gbadamosi’s son

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Sharif, one of the sons of the former Minister of National Planning, and former chairman, Petroleum Product Pricing and Regulatory Agency, Chief Rasheed Gbadamosi, tells ARUKAINO UMUKORO about his father’s career as an economist

Can you introduce yourself

My name is Sharif Gbadamosi. I’m the first son of Chief Rasheed Gbadamosi. I work in a Singaporean conglomerate in Nigeria. I studied in Salford University, Greater Manchester, UK, for my first degree. Afterwards, I sat for the Association of Certified Chartered Accountants. I have a post-graduate certificate in Economics and Finance, with Applied Economics from Birkbeck University, University of London. I also have a master’s degree in International Business Management from Westminster Business School. I stayed back in London and worked for a couple of years as a personal manager. I came back to Nigeria in 2006. My first degree is in Economics. Currently, based on my profession, I’m a learning and development practitioner.

Did your dad influence your career path?

I would say my father actually influenced a lot of us in our career choices, through being a super dad that he is and as an economist. We didn’t need much convincing as we all wanted to be like him. Dad is our role model. He is a renowned economist and many of us chose to study economics as our first love, as it were, because of him. It was an inspiration watching him while we were growing up. Then, he was the Minister of National Planning, and the chairman of Petroleum Product Pricing and Regulatory Agency. He was also on the board of several companies. It was quite interesting and he did speak a lot of economics slogan in the house. That way, it was very easy to understand the subject. When you are surrounded by such, it is very difficult not to be involved. Dad made economics easy. As a result, we all decided to go to university and study economics as our first love. Then, we all moved to our separate discipline afterwards. He also taught us how to invest in the stock market. We are all heavily involved in the stock market in one way or the other.

Your father became a commissioner in Lagos State at the age of 27. How do you feel about that?

I’m jealous. I think he was the youngest commissioner then. I wish I could get that kind of achievement. I don’t know if that is possible today. Politics has changed so much in Nigeria. Then, they recognised talents and gave room to the younger generation. But today, the people who are in politics do not allow people into government until they are of a certain age; but it does not take anything away from my father. Becoming a commissioner at 27 in his days was a fantastic achievement.

What are some of the values you have learnt from your father?

I’ve learnt that there are no impossibilities when it comes to business. That it’s absolutely possible to do anything one sets one’s mind to do; that one would always find a way to achieve something when one has the will to do it. Dad doesn’t like a statement such as, ‘I can’t.’ He believes there is always a way. That was part of the training that we had and is still helping us today in our lives. For example, I tell my staff that there are no impossibilities; there are only people who chose to believe in impossibilities. He also taught us family values. Dad prides himself a lot in his family. He takes his children and grandchildren out on holidays and makes sure brought us all together during festive periods—Christmas, Sallah etc. It’s a yearly tradition. Dad also taught us to be hard working. He doesn’t believe in laziness, but that one must always work to improve oneself voluntarily. It’s not just about getting a degree; you also have to groom yourself.

What are some of your dad’s likes and dislikes?

Aside from those I had mentioned, he doesn’t like people that are deceptive and are not straightforward. He loves art. He is the second largest art collector in Nigeria after Engineer Yemisi Shillon. Dad loves etiquette. I won’t say he loves politics, but he actually loves this country. And he loves his grandchildren.

How would you describe him as a father?

Dad is a disciplinarian, and we thank him for that. At that time, it wasn’t funny, but as we grew older, we realised these were the sort of values we also wanted to instil in our children. He is also a humorous man, and he likes having his grandchildren around him.

Can you mention an interesting side to your father?

He might not find this funny at all. Whenever we go to Ikorodu and dad is around his friends, they start speaking Ijebu language and laughing. But because we don’t understand it or have a clue about what they are laughing about. We just sit there, wondering what is going on. But, generally, there’s no dull moment with dad. He is fun to be with.

How did he discipline his children whenever they erred?

Dad didn’t spare the rod.

How did he react whenever he was angry?

He would say a lot of words and he made himself extremely clear about what he was angry about; and it didn’t leave any doubt in the mind of the person he was angry with.

How was it growing up with an accomplished economist?

Dad was always busy, but no matter how busy he was, he always ensured that he spent quality time with his family. He always came back every evening; we would all sit round the dinner table and spend time together. That, at least, gave us a connection. Dad is a family man. His family values are very high. However, this was intimidating sometimes, because there was a need for us to conduct ourselves with proper etiquette and decorum in the house, because dad epitomised what it meant to be a professional and a very seasoned gentleman. Living with dad at home was like going to a finishing school. We were always being moulded everyday into the people that we are today. While it was like living in a boot camp, at the end of the day, it was the best thing for us.

What other ways did he spend time with the family?

We went on holidays every year. I’ve been to many different countries in the world— Europe, Africa and other continents— and I thank him for that. Being able to travel to these countries, I know it wasn’t easy for him to do, but he wanted to make sure that we were cultured, and that we also had a wide knowledge of the outside world. As a result of that, today we can say we have a global perspective of issues and life.

How has your dad’s name opened doors for you?

It’s a very interesting question. It does open doors all the time. Recently, I rented a new flat. The landlord was very picky about the type of people that he would allow in. When he knew my surname, he said immediately, “I would gladly rent my flat to you, because I know you are from a responsible family.” I wasn’t really expecting that. People have a lot of respect for my dad. Then, one realises that one has to live up to his high standards. It’s the usual expectation that the children surpass the accomplishments of the parents, and I would like to think of myself as a work in progress. But, in our household, the records that dad has set still remain unbroken. None of us became commissioners at the age he became one (27). I wish I was able to do it by the age of 18. But I was still in the university at the time.

How would you describe your father’s social life?

He has a great social life. He’s a socialite. He always has different events to attend or chair. Sometimes, he drags us along with him. Every Saturday, there is always an event for him to attend. My mum has this calendar/book that she records all his appointments. Because he’s well-known, many times, people ask him to be chairman at a wedding or a function and he obliges. He tries to encourage us to be more outgoing, but I’m not a socialite like him.

How would you describe his relationship with your mum?

They have a wonderful relationship. Recently, they just celebrated another wedding anniversary. They also work together. My mum has been a strong pillar of support to him, she provided that solid foundation in the home, especially when dad was always busy; she held the home. My dad never came home and found a displeasing situation with us. He found us on track because mum upheld their agreement. She is also an educationist. It’s very interesting having two people teach you in the house, one from the position of economics, and the other from the position of education. It was a good combination. I also got the gift of oratory from my dad.

What is your dad’s favourite meal?

That’s a tough one. I think that is the question my mother can answer, because we have had to change diets many times. I am going through the same transition. It’s very difficult to pick his favourite.

Does he have a favourite drink?

He doesn’t drink alcohol or any sugary stuff, just water. I would say water is his favourite.

What’s his daily routine like?

When he wakes up in the morning, he reads the newspapers and watches the news. Then he has breakfast and attends to the order of his day. Sometimes, he goes to his office to handle some business transactions and he comes back home. Now he takes his time because he is semi-retired. He also listens to classical music. You can never go to his room without hearing beautiful classical music playing in the background. It was because of him I also started appreciating classical music. I think classical music helps stimulate the intellect. He made sure all of us learnt a musical instrument while we were growing up. I play the classical piano, my younger brother also plays the piano, while my younger sister plays the violin. My older sister also plays the piano. She is also a music teacher and owns a company in the UK. We are like the Nigerian Von Trapp family in the movie, ‘Sound of Music.’ Everybody can play a music instrument and can sing to a certain extent. My mum sings very well too. She has a great voice. Also, dad plays the guitar very well. He loves playing the guitar and during his 70th birthday celebration, he played the guitar on the stage. It was fun.

Does he have a favourite artiste?

He has many favourites. He likes Mozart and Beethoven.

As a former chairman of PPPRA, what is your dad’s view about the fuel subsidy and the perennial problem of fuel scarcity?

We have discussed this a long time ago. When he was the chairman of PPPRA, he tried to deregulate Premium Motor Spirit and he was criticised for it. At the end of the day, long after his tenure, this was done by President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration. The government’s coffers were being drained as a result of the payment of subsidies. He has never supported subsidy and we agree with him because if you look at the economic explanation, it makes sense to remove subsidy completely. I struggled to buy fuel every day at N97 a litre, and even now at N87 per litre. It’s not about elitism. Removal of subsidy would completely eliminate hoarding and scarcity because they (marketers) can’t claim the government owes them money and they are going on strike. In the short term, it’s going to hurt us all. But, in the long term, it’s better for Nigeria.

How does your dad like to dress?

He dresses mainly in traditional buba and sokoto. It’s very comfortable and free-flowing as well. He doesn’t like tight outfits.

Who are some of your father’s friends?

I think my dad knows everybody. There are quite a number of them. When we had a party a while ago, an arts exhibition in Ikorodu, I saw the likes of Prof. Pat Utomi, among others. We were also expecting former President Olusegun Obasanjo, but he didn’t show up.

I read somewhere that your grandfather told your father not to join politics….

My grandfather told not just him, but all of us, not to join politics. It’s a Gbadamosi policy. That’s good enough for us. Our grandfather is well-respected by all of us. In our different ways, we can still use our gifts and wealth of knowledge to serve this country.

In retrospect, do you feel your dad would have joined the race to become Lagos State governor at a time?

No. I’m happy he just stayed as a commissioner. I prefer the path he took; I like the idea of being a technocrat.

How does it feel to be the son of such a famous Nigerian?

I’m over the moon and I desire to be able to give back to Nigeria the way he has, especially in the education sector. I don’t want to go into politics, but I would love the opportunity as a technocrat, to become an expert in a particular sector and make people’s lives better.

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My father lost in 2003 due to rigging—Lam-Adesina’s son

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Dr. Ayobami Lam-Adesina, is the eldest son of former Oyo State governor, Lam Adesina. He tells OLUFEMI ATOYEBI about his father and his political career

How did the late Lam Adesina act on the day of election?

I remember that my father was usually calm because he had agents at all polling units. Some of them would be among the electorate. After voting, they would come home and accompany him and his wife to vote. They returned home and discussed political issues. They monitored the elections through reports from the agents and his aides who were at the polling units.

During counting of the votes, he had the feel of the voting pattern from each of the wards in the same way. From his position at home, he ensured that his people were not harassed at the polling units in each of the wards. The safety and comfort of the agents were more important to him because he understood the possible danger lurking around during elections.

What was your father’s view on leadership?

To my dad, leadership does not belong to a particular class. Nigeria is blessed with people of diverse intellectual ability. Many of them came from a humble background like my father, who was a mere secondary school principal and later, he became a governor in the state.

How did your father handle his political victory in 1999 and loss in 2003?

He felt privileged to serve the people and he did his best. What he was looking forward to was to lead the people but he was rigged out and he accepted it as an act of God. As far as my father was concerned, he had the opportunity to serve the people of Oyo State as their governor and just like he always said, nothing lasts forever. When you hold a position, it is for a period of time. You may be there today and tomorrow, you are gone.

Before the election result was announced, did he say things that doubted his victory at the poll?

Yes, he had the feeling that the ruling party at the centre, the Peoples Democratic Party, was planning to rig the election. But he was not bothered. He told me that he had the opportunity to rule for four years. He did his best and believed that his legacy would live on.

Did visitors coming to his house reduce after the loss and was he receiving lesser phone calls?

That is equally interesting. It is very important to learn from heroes. The late Bola Ige lost in 1983 after four years as governor but he led a life of total fulfillment. He held to his principle and the crowd or number of calls did not dwindle. He remained a leader and came up with floating the Alliance for Democracy. Equally, my father did not experience dwindling number of calls and visitors after his electoral loss. Even long after his death, we still talk about him and that is why people continue to celebrate him. He stood on the side of the people, fought for them and implemented people-oriented projects. Irrespective of challenges of life, people who lose election can still triumph if they stand with their principle. Heroes don’t fear failure, they move on.

What is your reaction to the campaign strategies employed by leading contestants of the presidential election before this general election?

It has been described as hate campaign. Every political campaign comes with its attendant challenges. I see this period as the time for political struggle. However, politics without bitterness must always be embraced. We should discuss ideas and not personality. I have had the opportunity to contest in a governorship primary and, I did not abuse my opponent, Governor Abiola Ajimobi, during the campaign. It is sad that people are moving away from the politics of our past heroes, who focused on the politics of policies. The late leader, Obafemi Awolowo, never abused President Shehu Shagari, he only pointed out what he would have done as president.

Is Nigeria’s politics mature?

It should be at this stage but the characteristics we are talking about do not demonstrate political maturity. However, I don’t think all politicians abuse themselves. There are exemptions.

Do you have a Permanent Voter Card and when did you get it?

I collected mine a couple of weeks ago.

If the election had not been postponed, would you have voted?

No, because I got it after it was rescheduled.

What then is your response to the idea of postponement?

I was out of the country for a while after failing at first attempt. The good thing is that many people now have the card. I understand that in Oyo State, the number has risen to around 72 per cent. Our people came out and voted well. The Independent National Electoral Commission must ensure that elections are free and fair.

Nigeria is now far away from conducting simple elections. That reflects the quality of the society we now have, which is linked to the quality of leadership we have. We are supposed to be a democratic example for many other countries, not just in Africa. By now, we should have moved to a point whereby we will be a shining example to others. I worked for many years in the United Kingdom and took part in the voting process; no one gave us a card or brought card readers to check rigging. I will not blame INEC for introducing card readers, it’s the reflection of our society and the kind of leadership we have.

What are the advantages and disadvantages of the added six weeks to the elections dates?

One of the advantages is that more people were able to collect their PVCs. Politicians also had the added opportunity of selling themselves to the people and we have seen a renewed fight against insurgency. However, we have also seen a situation where politicians used the period to buy peoples’ conscience with the kind of money that we should have used to develop Nigeria.

Do you think the poll shift changed the electoral chances between APC and PDP?

We will have to wait for the result of the election and the subsequent elections in April.

How would you describe your father’s political ideology?

He was a progressive to the core, up to his death. He is a kind of person who believed that government must implement policies that will support the masses. In his lifetime, he was an advocate of free education at all levels, free primary health care service, gainful employment, rural development and many more. If he were to be alive, he would not have supported pensioners not being paid. He would have canvassed for their rights because it is statutory role of government.

Did he share any political secret about Oyo State with you before his death?

He did not just focus on Oyo State. He attended University of Nigeria Nsukka and loved this country. The progressive APC states that are doing well today put their policies on population-focused services. Some PDP states are doing the same thing. That was the policy that my father imbibed.

Don’t you think politicians are not doing enough to educate their supporters?

No politician should see political competition as do-or-die affair. The job of a politician is to sell his or her programme to the people. The people will look at the programmes and decide which of them suits their expectations. The fact that a politician loses today does not mean that he will lose again. The concern of candidates should be how to steer the ship of this nation to safety. We should know that power belongs to the people and ultimately, to God. He chooses leaders.

Would your father have supported President Goodluck Jonathan in his re-election bid?

Let me tell you a story to support my father’s integrity status. In 1980 or 1981 when he was a member of Federal House of Representatives, there was a revenue allocation bill that the National Party of Nigeria wanted to pass and take a particular percentage from. Legislators from the Unity Party of Nigeria felt that the allocation would not do the masses any good and they opposed it. The majority of the NPN legislators sent a prominent UPN member to my father to influence him. They brought huge sums of money to our house then but he told them to take the money away. He told them that he would not be a party to fraudulent acts. During the voting on the floor of the house, NPN did not get what it wanted. My father stood for what he believed. He did not sell his integrity. If he were to be alive today, he would have spoken out against what is bad about this administration and rejected any overture. It is a pity that people like him and Bola Ige are no longer alive. They would have spoken for the masses.

Would you say your father was a rich man?

My father was never a rich man. I rose to become a director in public health service in the United Kingdom because of how he trained me. I worked hard to achieve my goal in life. We were six in number and he gave us the best public education he could offer.

Did he encourage his children to go into politics?

As far as he was concerned, he did not stand in the way of anyone who wanted to go into politics. But he always told us that we must study hard and reach the pinnacle of private practice to be relevant in politics.

Did he ever face a political challenge and how did he overcome?

His political life was all rosy. The military government of Sani Abacha put him in jail because they did not like his stance on the military regime. He was a strong man and he survived the era.

How did he fund his campaign?

When he contested during elections, integrity was all he spent, not money. Like I said, he was not rich, whatever God gave him, he used it to fund progressive-minded people. They came around him and supported him when he put himself forward for public service.

How did violence become a common feature of Oyo State politics?

One of the challenges that Nigeria has now is because that when it comes to political competition, it becomes a do-or-die affair. In the days of Chief Obafemi Awolowo, Bola Ige and my father, some of us that experienced the activities then knew that they did not go after each other’s throat because they wanted to rule. It is normal in a democratic setting to have different parties and it is normal for people to support different parties. It is also normal to understand that after the elections, normal life will return. We must have peaceful co-existence. People must be free to vote for any candidate or party of their choice and that decision must be respected. We must see ourselves as brothers and sisters. Our main goal must be for the development of this nation. When we go through electoral process, we must maintain peace as my father would always preach.

What can be done to make politicians less desperate in holding on to power?

Before now, getting to power was viewed as a call to service and not about making money. One of the challenges of our time is that political positions are now seen as avenue to make a lot of money. Government is now viewed as big business. The basic social services that should be common features of our society are not there. Within that framework, it becomes difficult for people to be in politics without looking for avenues to make money. Until when we have an environment where youths are employed, where people have medical services and other social services, some of the progressive policies we are preaching will not be realised. Until we have an enabling environment that challenges politicians to serve the people, we will continue this way. The election yesterday was an important day in the life of this nation. We pray that the right candidate emerges.

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Dad’s name didn’t open doors for me — Balarabe Musa’s son

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In this interview, Ibrahim, the eldest son of a former governor of Kaduna State, Alhaji Balarabe Musa, tells ARUKAINO UMUKORO about his father’s political ideology

Introduce yourself, please.

My name is Dr. Ibrahim Balarabe Musa. I’m a Permanent Secretary in the Kaduna State Ministry of Youths and Sports. I’m the eldest son of Alhaji Balarabe Musa, a former governor of Kaduna State. He was governor in 1979.

How was it growing up with your father?

It was normal. By the time he was a governor, I was in the university, but we had a normal childhood. Then, there was no difference between a rich man’s child and that of a poor man. My dad loved education and he made sure everyone in the house had education. My father is a disciplined person and I grew up imbibing that discipline from my childhood days.

What are some of the values you learnt from your father?

I learnt first of all to be honest in earning one’s living, and also to be sympathetic to the plight of others. He taught me that it is important to help other people around; to give attention to one’s religion, but not to be fanatical about it, or dislike other people because of their religion. I remember then our Christian classmates used to visit us at home during holidays. There was no discrimination.

How would you describe your father’s tenure and what were some of his achievements as governor?

He is a socialist by principle. He practised socialism and succeeded in many ways within a very short time. Up till now, the things he had built or invested in are still there. He is the first person to build that number of schools in the state. Also, the industries and some infrastructure he built are still there. He built flour mills, pharmaceutical companies and factories. He established a lot of agricultural projects in the state and he also did rural electrification projects.

How did he become a socialist?

He grew up in London. London has a history of socialism. Lenin, Stalin and others ran away from Russia and went to London for a long time. There were groups that were completely socialist then. Also, his association with Mallam Aminu Kano made him more of a socialist.

What are his views about the elections in Nigeria and where does his allegiance lie?

He has no allegiance to any party. He is a socialist and he would continue to be one. He maintains that this present crop of political parties is not what he believes in. His view of socialism is the one that cuts across social structures. He is not a capitalist.

How did your father feel when he was impeached as governor?

He is not the type of person who worries about political office and the impeachment was never a worry to him.

He contested the presidential elections in 2003 under the Peoples Redemption Party. How did he feel when he lost?

He has always contested elections based on his rights as a citizen and on principles not because he has money. Winning is not his problem.

It was said that he didn’t have enough money to buy posters at the time. What are his views about politicians that want to win elections at all costs?

He was trying to inform people and teach them to know that they can contest election even without money or posters. Politicians who want to win elections at all costs are thieves to him. They don’t have anything to offer the people.

How disappointed was he that he couldn’t contest because he didn’t have enough money?

He was not disappointed because he didn’t have money, but he was disappointed because people don’t consider one until one gives them money. It’s just like a person in a ditch telling one to give him money before that person agrees to bring him out. Please note that my father is not against honest riches, but he wants the rich to share with the poor, simply because without the poor the rich can’t be rich or wealthy.

What is his view on corruption in Nigeria?

He is incorruptible and one should expect him to fight it (corruption) with all his powers. To even lie is an offence to him let alone corruption. I have never seen a person that hates corruption like him.

Some people may say your father is very rich because he is into politics. Is he a rich man?

He is not a rich man.

What is his view about the 2015 elections?

Like I said, he is not inclined to any party. He is not impressed by their performance. He is struggling to see that his party comes alive. Unfortunately, age has caught up with him. He is almost 80 years old now. But he still wants to be active. As his children, we don’t discourage him from that. Just like he encourages us to do what is right, we also encourage him in whatever he wants to do.

Who did he support during the presidential elections?

I don’t think he had a favourite candidate. He just wants a better Nigeria.

Due to incessant religious crises, Kaduna State seems to have lost some of its allure. How does your father feel about Kaduna today unlike in his time when it was more cosmopolitan?

During his time as governor, there was no religious discrimination. It was later the politicians used religion for their interests. But things are getting better in the state. People are more understanding of one another now. Although some people have alienated themselves because of fear, they still interact with one another and work together as friends and also forgive. With time, religious divisions will be a thing of the past.

What are his views about religious and ethnic divisions in the country?

He does not support religious or ethnic divisions. He interacts with everyone from every tribe. He advises people to let go of their religious and ethnic differences. He is not tribalistic. That’s why he has friends among the Yoruba, Igbo, and other tribes in the country.

Who are some of your father’s closest friends and contemporaries?

Some of my father’s close friends are Chief Lateef Jakande, Jim Nwobodo, Anthony Enahoro, Ozumba Mbadiwe, Olu Falae; I can name so many of them. My father is a true Nigerian. For example, I know Jakande’s family personally, that shows how close my father is to him. Some of them met themselves in the 50s in London, United Kingdom.

Would you say your father influenced your career choice?

No, my father did not influence any of our career choices. He allowed us to choose on our own. I grew up to become what I am today because I passed through the stages. He advises us with respect but he didn’t influence our career choices. I have brothers and sisters who are lawyers, architects and one is even a pilot. None of my siblings is involved in politics. Personally, I do not like politics and I try to discourage them (from joining). I am not a politician, I am a civil servant.

Would you say your father’s name has opened doors for you?

His name has not opened doors for me. I worked hard to get to where I am today. I am educated and I have a Ph.D. I started working as a Level 8 officer and I rose through the ranks. Where is the influence? Yes, he may have an influential name, but I have never tried to take advantage of leveraging on his name.

What are his hobbies?

He likes travelling and reading. He also likes farming. He has big farms. He plants arable crops like maize, guinea corn and so on. He also has cattle. You know, most of us Northerners have a farming background. I am also a farmer. I have a poultry farm.

What are your father’s likes and dislikes?

He dislikes indiscipline and lies. He doesn’t like people telling him lies. He doesn’t like dishonesty. He loves children and he loves education.

What is his daily routine like?

When he wakes up in the morning, he says his prayers. Then he prepares for the day. He meets with his contemporaries and his friends. He also interacts with traders after which he goes to his farms. He doesn’t return until around 5pm or 6pm in the evening. Sometimes, he also does some travelling.

How much is he involved with groups such as the Arewa Consultative Forum and others?

He doesn’t like such tribal groupings. He believes that people should interact on an individual basis not because of one’s tribal affiliations. If it is a group that unites everyone, then he would show interest. He doesn’t belong to any of these groups. But sometimes they come to him for advice. He would say one cannot build one Nigeria with just one tribe. Dad believes in a united Nigeria, not because one is Hausa or Yoruba that one should be part of a group.

How close is your dad to former president Shehu Shagari?

Shehu Shagari is a humble and very nice person. He and my father interact and respect each other personally but it is not based on political platforms.

What is your dad’s favourite food?

He likes tuwo masara (maize flour meal) and miyan kuka (Baobab leaf soup). He also likes eating chicken a lot. He could eat it every day.

What is his favourite drink?

He likes fura de nono (cow milk).

Your father must feel disappointed with the Boko Haram insurgency in the north….

Yes, he is not happy with the Boko Haram insurgency. He doesn’t like me bringing any newspaper to him that has news about Boko Haram. He tells me not to bring it to him if it has any news of Boko Haram in it. He is sad about the insurgency. He has passion and big dreams for Nigeria. He wants a peaceful Nigeria.

Did he share with you his views on how the insurgency can be curbed?

We don’t discuss at length about the Boko Haram issue. But he believes that if there is equitable distribution of wealth, there would be peace and harmony. However, if there is no equitable distribution of wealth, then we would have problems.

Do you think he feels northern leaders have failed its people by not providing enough in terms of education?

He has been saying it, that the northern elders have failed, especially in the acquisition and distribution of wealth. That is what worries him. He believes that if one has too much wealth, one should distribute it to others, and that would bring harmony.

How did he discipline his children whenever they erred?

He didn’t use the cane or use abusive words. But he would let you know from his words and actions.

How is his relationship with your mum and his wives?

He respects them and they respect him. They have a good marriage.

What kind of books does your father read?

He reads sociology books, history books, and Chinese literature. He reads books about Nigeria and world history, as well as the evolution of languages. He also reads books about Karl Marx. He is very versed in Marx’s works.

What do you think should be his legacy?

He always wants to be remembered as a socialist. He wants a peaceful and harmonious Nigeria where everyone would love one another.

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Military stopped dad’s plans for Anambra — Ezeife’s daughter

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Chineme, one of the daughters of a former governor of Anambra State, Chukwuemeka Ezeife, talks about her father’s political career with MOTUNRAYO JOEL

Tell us about yourself.

My name is Chineme Ezeife, I’m a 500 Level Law student of the Faculty of Law, University of Lagos. I will describe myself as someone who aspires to inspire. I hope to become a Senior Advocate of Nigeria in the nearest future. I have 14 siblings; I come from a polygamous home. My father has three wives. I am the 12th child.

How was it growing up with your father?

It was great. My father is a disciplinarian to the core, and he always made sure we did what was right. Aside from that, I had a normal childhood. I still remember my school days; whenever we got home from school, he would make us read our books. He didn’t allow us waste time playing around.

Coming from a polygamous home was your childhood different?

My childhood was beautiful; my father sees family bonding as something of importance. He doesn’t joke with his family. He ensured that we all grew up in the same house, we ate the same food and went to the same school. We are all very close, despite our large number. I speak to step sisters and brothers regularly.

How do people react when they hear your surname?

People are always surprised, but I always get positive reactions from them. Whenever they see my surname, they ask if I’m his daughter and when I say yes, they become surprised. I get so much help here and there. However, my father raised us up to be independent. He doesn’t write his name on any letter he gives us; he says we should strive to make a name for ourselves. I have enjoyed many privileges being his daughter.

What are some of these?

They are numerous. I had my secondary education in the East and he insisted on us learning our language. Over there, he is well known; they see him as incorruptible and someone that says his mind. Because of these qualities, people always wanted to help us and they even offered to go an extra mile in helping. I’m really grateful for that.

Can you remember your most memorable moment growing up?

There are many memorable moments; my father is a super dad. Every day is memorable.

How did he discipline his children whenever they erred?

My father never spared the rod, he used to flog us. He would ask us to bring a cane that is our height and he used it on us. But now, he corrects us verbally. He is a man of few words; if anyone of us misbehaved, he would tell us exactly what we have done wrong. He uses words and expression to chastise us.

Describe your parents’ marriage?

It is one of understanding, mutual respect and trust.

How does he handle misunderstanding with your mother?

He is a politician who knows how to calm things down.

Does he advise you on the type of man to marry?

Yes, he regularly does. He always tells us to think with our head and not our eyes. He says we should use our brain when it comes to marriage. He tells us not to marry a dream killer; instead we should marry someone that would strengthen our dreams.

Are there times when your family feels scared for his life, being a politician?

Yes, so many times. He is considered controversial, which I don’t think he is, but people see him that way. He is someone that speaks his mind. There are times when he writes articles and I become scared for his life. Some of his write-ups on Boko Haram and sectionalisation are straight to the point. I’m always praying to God to protect him. During the National Confab, I received a text that there was a bomb blast in Abuja, I became so scared.

Did he influence the career choices of his children or encourage them to go into politics?

No, he didn’t. He believes a child should follow his or her dreams. He believes in the independence of mind, will and action. He never pushes us to do anything, he only mentors and advises us on how to achieve our goals. He doesn’t encourage us to go into politics, though a few of us have decided to go into politics. But that is our personal decision. For example, I am interested in going into politics in my latter years. We have different professions in my family — lawyers, accountants, engineers and others.

What did your father say motivated him to join politics?

My father is a social democrat, an economist, and prior to his political career, he always wanted to make a difference and move things forward. I guess joining politics was just the most logical step to take. All these motivated him to go into politics.

What is his view on corruption in Nigeria?

He sees corruption as a fundamental problem in Nigeria that has eaten deep into the system. Majority of our leaders are guilty of corruption. Only a few is incorruptible and he says he is among the few. He hopes Nigeria becomes a better place.

What are his views about the 2015 elections and where does his allegiance lie?

All through the elections, he had supported President Jonathan’s brand, he wanted a continuity of progress, but it is God’s will for Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (retd.) to take over. We can now fold our hands and wait for the ‘promised change’ and we pray it comes to pass. Generally, he thinks the election was free and fair and that the results are God’s will. We really thank God for the success of the elections.

Who did he support during the presidential elections?

President Goodluck Jonathan.

What values have you imbibed from him?

Hard work and diligence, my father is a hard worker. He tells us that when he was having his Ordinary National Diploma, he taught himself at home and, read alone. That was how he managed to pass and gained admission to the university. He teaches us that there is no barrier to one’s success. I have also learnt honesty from him.

What is it that Nigerians don’t know about him?

My father is funny, he likes cracking jokes. He also likes to laugh; there is no boring moment with him. He reads a lot and he still goes jogging every morning.

Does he read what people write about him?

Yes, he does, regularly.

How does he handle criticisms?

He handles it really well. If one is outspoken, one must be ready to face critics.

Some people think he is rich because he is into politics. Will you consider him a rich man?

No, my father is not a rich man, he is only comfortable. He sent us to good schools and made sure we are comfortable. He doesn’t spend extravagantly.

What are his views about religion and ethnic divisions in the country?

He sees division as a natural issue but he says divisions from different sects are perpetrated by ignorant people that need to be educated. He believes in unity despite our diverse religions.

What does he have to say about President Goodluck’s tenure?

He thinks President Jonathan made progress. Even though whatever he did were impeded by insurgency, it was hard for President Jonathan to do more. My father believes if given another chance, the President would have done more.

Who are some of your father’s closest friends and contemporaries?

My father doesn’t have so many friends, but I know he is close to Chief Edwin Clark, though they are not contemporaries.

Who were the famous faces you saw at home?

I saw many of them, senators, commissioners, ex governors and I still see them.

Where does he see himself in the next few years?

He is quite old in age. But he desires to be part of the proposed change.

Does he believe the President-elect, Gen. Buhari can bring about the change?

I don’t know his view on that but he says Gen. Buhari’s victory is the will of God. We all pray things work out well.

What are his hobbies?

He likes reading. He likes watching television, and playing chess.

What kind of books does your father read?

He reads widely. He even has a few law books in his shelf; he reads books on history, career, and economics.

What is your dad’s favourite food?

He likes pounded yam with egusi soup mixed with okro.

Describe your father’s tenure and achievement as a governor?

When my father was governor of Anambra State in 1992, he had many plans for the state but his tenure was disrupted by the military. He said he had so many plans for Anambra State. He wanted to develop the place, but he wasn’t able to achieve them. Despite that, some of his achievements were the conversion of Nnamdi Azikiwe University and Federal Polytechnic, Oko.

What is his favourite drink?

He doesn’t have any in particular, but he eats quail eggs every morning.

How sociable is he?

He is a private person, he doesn’t really like going out. He enjoys staying at home.

What challenges has he faced overtime as a politician?

I’m not aware of any, but because he is outspoken, people tend to castigate him.

How close are you to him?

We are quite close, we talk often.

Does he visit you in school?

No, he doesn’t.

How do you feel being his child?

I feel great. It is a blessing. He is a great father; he sacrifices a lot just in order for us to be comfortable.

What are some of his weaknesses and strengths?

He is disciplined, he doesn’t cut corners. For his weakness, my father is easily moved, if he sees his neighbour going through one form of challenge, he is touched. His looks cover this, but my father can be sensitive.

Does he ever regret going into politics?

No, he doesn’t.

How is your mother handling his political career?

She has handled it well. She has grown with his career.

What is the first thing he does when he wakes and the last thing he does before he sleeps?

He reads a book and that is the last thing he does before he sleeps. He also prays.

Describe his schedule?

He wakes up at 4am to read a book, goes power-walking or jogging, and then when he gets home, he reads newspapers. He also travels a lot.

Your father must feel disappointed with the Boko Haram insurgency in the north

Yes, he is hurt. To him, Boko Haram was set up by people who wanted to make Jonathan’s government ungovernable.

Did he share with you his views on how the insurgency can be curbed?

He thinks insurgency has already being dealt with because he feels some forces are behind it. The people behind it wanted power to come into their hands.

What do you think should be his legacy?

I think posterity will remember him for his integrity, honesty and truthful nature.

What don’t you like about him?

He is a disciplinarian to the core; he doesn’t leave room for misbehaviour. If he tells any child to do something and he or she refuses, he tags the person as being irresponsible. He stands on his ground, which I like about him.

What else have you imbibed from him?

Family bonding, he still takes everyone to the village every Christmas.

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My mother reads 20 newspapers daily — Priscilla Kuye’s daughter

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Onikepo, daughter of the first female president, Nigerian Bar Association, Dame Priscilla Kuye talks to MOTUNRAYO JOEL about her mother’s life and career

Tell us about yourself`.

My name is Onikepo Braithwaite nee Kuye. I have an older brother, Demola who is also a lawyer. I had my primary education at Corona School, Ikoyi then I proceeded to Holy Child School, Obalende, where I spent two years. I had my secondary education at Queens College, Yaba, Lagos. I later moved to England for my A levels. I attended Goudhurst College, Chesire, then Hurtwood House, Surrey. I went to America for my tertiary education, where I attended Oglethorpe University, Atlanta, Georgia. I studied Economics; I have a Bachelor of Business Administration in Economics with a minor in Business Administration. In 1986, I observed my National Youth Service Corps scheme and then went to the University of Lagos to study Law. I was at the Nigerian Law School where I obtained my BL in 1991.

Being a lawyer, are you sometimes pressurised by people to emulate your mother?

Even though we are both lawyers, we are two different people. There are certain aspects she is active in, such as Bar politics, especially since she was the first female President of NBA. I’m different; I focus more on my law practice and business. We have different interests, she is also active in the church, which I’m not. However, in terms of work ethics, I think I do my part; I do meet up to her standard.

How do people react when you mention your surname?

I think it is my surname, Braithwaite, that catches their attention first. People always ask which of The Braithwaites? But when they then look at my complimentary card and see the name Priscilla Kuye and Co written on it, they want to know our relationship. When I tell them that I’m her child, they become so welcoming. I can proudly say that my mother’s name has opened doors for me. People then view me as a person of integrity, good morals because of her background. Having to bear Kuye and Braithwaite is a fantastic combination because my mother and Dr. Tunji Braithwaite were both activists and lawyers. Once, there was a client I had been trying to get, when the person saw my complimentary card, they asked about my relationship with Aunty Priscilla. When I said she is my mother, the person’s attitude automatically became very warm.

Growing up, how did she discipline a child who erred?

She was more of someone who would give one a slap but not use a cane. She was firm, and doesn’t believe in pampering a child. She was strict. Sometimes, when either of us erred, she would give us a lashing of her tongue.

How was she able to juggle work and family?

I think she did a fantastic job. I still remember going to her office after school, we would have lunch and do our homework. When she was through with work, we would all go home together. I think she did well in juggling work and family. My childhood was fun; I was quite close to my father too. I was like his handbag. I had a happy childhood.

Before you got married, did she advise you on the type of man to marry?

Not really, jut that I should marry someone who is God-fearing.

Describe your mother?

Despite her small stature; she inspires confidence in me as if she is a giant. Growing up, I felt a strong sense of protection around her. She says one must always put God first in everything. My mother is strong, not really a talkative, but she is confident and always ends up being a force to be reckoned with in whatever she does. She is humble and mild mannered.

How did you feel when she was made the first female president of the NBA?

My family was happy and proud. My brother and I had become lawyers at that time. It’s a thing of pride to say that over 20 years later, no other woman has achieved the Presidency of the Nigerian Bar. She remains the only one.

Would you want to take up the challenge of being made President of the NBA?

No, I just want to do my work quietly, I’m interested in good governance, but I don’t think I’m much of an activist.

Did she influence your career choice?

I studied Economics first before proceeding to study Law. Before I studied Economics my mother used to try to convince me to study law, but I wasn’t sure that I wanted to, so I didn’t at first. Surprisingly, my father studied Economics first before Law. When I came back home after obtaining my Economics degree, I did my NYSC in a Bank and I hated it. That was when I decided to go back to school to study Law. My mother was right. I’m glad I did both, it gives one a good knowledge of things.

How does she handle issues with your father?

My father easy going person, quite homely and family orientated. He went to bed earliest in the house. He never kept late nights. The only issue my mother really had with him was his love for golf and the amount of time he spent at his club. She handled that issue by learning to play golf too (though I don’t think she was particularly interested in the game so she didn’t last very long as a golfer). I remember she used to complain and say that golf was my father’s second wife.

What inspires you about your parents’ marriage?

Their closeness and friendship. My father once told me that the best philosophy for marriage is to take your spouse as your friend. Sometimes I think they prefer themselves to Demola & I, they are that close. They may be discussing something, when you walk in they keep quiet as if it’s for their ears only. Even at her age, after almost 55 years of marriage, she still goes to the market and cooks my father’s meals, because he prefers it.

What kind of mother is she?

She was not too strict but there were some rules. Rule No.1 was that my brother and I were forced to go to church with her every sunday. She also made us do a lot of house chores. My mother loves going to the market, different ones for different things. Most saturdays she used to drag me particularly, to the market, because she said that I was a girl and as such I had to be an expert in going to the market and learning how slash market prices. The number of times I went to the market with her growing up is enough to last me a lifetime. Up till now she still supplies me with foodstuff like yam elubo and ewedu. She loves comparing market prices, she moves from one state to the other.

What does she do before she sleeps and when she wakes?

When my mother gets home from work she does her household chores, eats and spends the evening reading her 20 different newspapers, as she’s a newspaper addict. She watches the news. She doesn’t really watch programmes. In the mornings when she wakes , she prays and meditates before she starts her day.

What values have you imbibed from her?

I have imbibed integrity, honesty, hardwork and discretion. My mother taught us that a lawyer that goes round babbling and revealing clients confidences is not much of a lawyer.

Where does she see herself in the next few years?

I’m not sure. My mother is still extremely active, she goes to court and travels a lot. Maybe she will slow down in the next few years and devote herself to only church and charity work. She wants to live to a very ripe old age. She wants to be remembered for good as someone who contributed to the household of God and humanity.

What makes her happy?

She loves going for church activities. Growing up we did so much of it. We couldn’t go home from Sunday mass till she was done with all her activities, counting collection money, church society meetings and many other church activities. Sometimes,        I think if they say there is a church meeting in some back water place, she will go.

What were the challenges she faced during her tenure?

I don’t think the military wanted her back as President of the NBA.Some people just didn’t want or were not ready for a woman NBA President. Sadly, some of the women members even worked against her.

How does she handle her challenges?

She prays. She has a very strong faith in God. My mother says there is nothing God can’t handle.

Who were the famous faces you saw at home?

The Late Professor Jadesola Akande, Dame’s childhood friend, His Eminence Anthony Cardinal Okogie, the former Attorney-General of Lagos State, Mrs. Hairat Balogun, Otunba & Erelu Adekunle Ojora, the Late Chief MKO Abiola, the Late Alhaji Hamza Zayyad, Chief Ezeife, Chief & Chief Mrs. Kola Daisi and many others.Though she is not one that visits people often. She can be quite reserved.

How does she like to dress?

She prefers corporate wears because she still goes to work, court and formal functions regularly. She likes buying clothes anyway. She wears traditional outfits too but she’s not an expert at tying her headtie.

Does she exercise?

No, though she says she walks a lot which is a form of exercise.

What is her favourite food?

She eats healthy meals. She doesn’t eat junk food, she likes fish too. I don’t think she eats red meat. She likes amala, salmon, vegetables, fruits. She doesn’t joke with her fruits. Her kitchen is always filled with fruits.

What is it that Nigerians do not know about your mother?

She’s the first child of an Oba. She prefers to be addressed as Dame (from the Church) instead of Omo Oba or Chief. She speaks her dialect, Ijebu, fluently. She is extremely devoted to church activities. When people discover that I’m her daughter they are so happy, because in one way or the other, my mother would have affected their lives positively. She can have a good sense of humour. She loves going to the market. She is fearless.

Describe her daily schedule?

If Dame doesn’t have to go to court or some other commitments, she does not leave home that early. She goes for 12.30 mass at Falomo, Lagos Island after which she heads for her office. After office hours, there is always a church committee meeting to attend. Then, she heads for home. She travels quite a bit as well for work, church meetings, benchers activities, and a host of others.

What don’t you like about your mother?

She likes hoarding things like her past newspapers. I always tell her she can read them online but she isn’t internet savvy. Mummy is not time conscious at all. She’s always late or missing her flight. I’m a stickler for time. If you are going somewhere for 10AM, it is better to tell her 8am.

Does she still visit you often?

She visits when she comes to town. She always has loads of appointments scheduled so her visits are always flying visits. I spend more time with my Parents when I visit them in their house.

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My dad’s swagger stick had no special powers — Adekunle Fajuyi’s son

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Donald is the first child of the first military governor of the defunct Western Region, the late Lt. Col. Adekunle Fajuyi. He talks about his father’s military career and life with GBENGA ADENIJI

Please tell us briefly about yourself.

I am Donald Fajuyi; the first child and first son of the late Lt.Col. Adekunle Fajuyi. My mother died two years ago. I am a lawyer and I have three sisters and a late brother.

What memories of your father can you remember?

I was really young then because in 1966 I was 17 years old. I remember that in 1955, he was a lieutenant. My mother and I travelled to Enugu State that year to see him. He was posted to the state then but in what capacity I did not know. I was about six years old then. There were not many African officers at that time. He was at the third battalion of the Nigerian Army and the only black African officer in that unit. That explained why I was opportune to attend schools with white pupils who were the children of my father’s white colleagues. It was a lot of fun in those days. The army was not exposed to the society then. The barracks were located in the outskirts of the city.

We were always picked up from our homes in military vehicles and one of the wives of the officers would be detailed to accompany us to school. We were also brought back when the school closed. By 1960, he became a captain and was posted to the Congo before the war there. Through 1960 to 1966, he was very busy and did not spend much time with his family at home. He was always on one United Nations mission or the other. On the whole, he could go for one year, come home and return. At the end of the tour, we discovered that he spent six years in the Congo. He only spent a brief period at home.

During the brief period, did he have the time to take his family out?

I was in school when he came home for the brief period. He was a very busy man. When he died, I was a young man with a lot of idealism. I later examined his action-packed life. Whenever he was in his hometown in Ado-Ekiti, Ekiti State, he loved to go hunting. That was how I picked interest in firearms. He would teach me how to shoot. He did not like shooting birds on the ground. He liked to throw stones at them and when they flew, he would shoot them. He never missed his target. He also loved fishing. My father enjoyed going out but not for partying. It was to explore his hobbies; hunting and fishing. I took after him in that manner. I do not go to beer parlour to drink. I like to take my beer at home.

He also had a habit which my mother always commented on before she died. Whenever he was at any event with his friends, my father would fill his glass with beer and carry it about throughout the event. It was hard to find his glass empty. He would neither refill nor empty it. The idea was for him not to get intoxicated or lose control of himself. He was an officers’ officer. When he was on training in England, he was made an under officer; that meant among his colleagues, he was singled out and given the authority of an officer even though he had not graduated. My father was imbued with leadership qualities.

As a soldier, how did he correct any erring child?

My father used the cane. There was a day he came home and told me that a man came to our house. He said the man complained that a black boy and a white boy destroyed his heap of beer bottles which he placed on a road not far from our house. I laughed innocently and told my father that it was true. The white boy was my friend. I told him that we saw the bottles neatly placed by the roadside and that the devil just pushed us to pick stones and aim at them one after the other. I thought within myself that people who saw us must have told the man that it was Fajuyi’s son and his white friend who destroyed the bottles. I concluded by jokingly telling my father that we had great fun while breaking each of the bottles with the stones.

He later told me to go and get a cane. He liked to give the exact size he wanted and if it was not what he desired, he would tell the child to be caned to go and look for the exact size. When I brought the cane, he told me to lie down and beat me with it. He later counselled me not to do what I did and never to tell a lie. He explained that whatever one did, the circumstances would show whether it was accidental or deliberate. And that if it was intentional, there was a need for a reminder so that one would not do such a thing again. That was his own purpose for punishing any child who misbehaved. I also remember the day a salesman brought a set of plastic cups to our house. He told my father that they were unbreakable. I did not know that he was only extolling the product so he could sell them.

My father bought some and kept them on a table in the sitting room. One day, I took one of the cups and examined it curiously. I wondered if was really unbreakable. I smashed it on the floor with all my strength and it scattered. When my father noticed that one of the cups was missing, he called me and I said I broke it while trying to test if it was truly unbreakable. He asked me who told me they were unbreakable. He used the cane on me that day. He was a family man too. In the evening, he would play cards or ayo olopon game with my mother.

Whenever he came home from work, he would ask me to remove his shoes and get him a glass of beer. I would happily rush to the fridge, fill a glass, sip a little, refill it and rush to give him the glass filled with beer. He was a very loving father. He loved to take me on a drive. His hunting exercises were carried out during the weekends.

Was there any special treatment you received in school?

There was nothing like that. I did not even know there was any distinction between myself and other children. My father often told me that I was not better than other children. He specifically told me not to feel any special because he was a ranked officer. I did not even understand what that meant. But during that time, I really lacked nothing. Whenever I followed my mother to the market, I used to see many people buying and selling. I would wonder about their lives and who they were because I was sheltered.

Since you grew up seeing guns, why did you choose law?

I was in the university when the civil war started. I left secondary school in 1966 and entered higher school in 1968.I later went to the University College, Ibadan now University of Ibadan in 1969 for medicine. The war had commenced then. I later enrolled in the 13th short commission of the Nigerian Army. I was in Bonny Camp, Lagos, undergoing training when my mother heard of my decision. I think it was youthful exuberance that led me to join the army.

I was on camp one day when my name was called through the loudspeaker that ‘cadet Fajuyi’ should report at the commandant’s office. I was surprised. As I entered the commandant’s office, I saw a visitation panel led by an ex-member of the Supreme Military Council, Major. Gen. Olufemi Olutoye. I learnt that my mother went to speak with those close to her that I wanted to go and die when she learnt I went to join the army. May be that was what brought the Olutoye to the place I cannot say. Perhaps, he saw the list with my name on it and wondered what I was doing in training. Anyway, when he asked me what I was doing there, I told him I wanted to contribute my part for my country. He said I should return to school. I really want to thank him wherever he is today. Maybe I would have died in the Biafran war if he had not told me to return to school. I thank him with all my heart. I really do not regret that I did not join the army. I thank God today that I am alive today.

Did your father encourage you to be a soldier?

No, he did not. He only encouraged me to go to school. He was not even particular about the course I studied but was interested in my having quality education. He had doctors and lecturers as friends and he used to tell me that they were the kind of people I should emulate.

Who were the popular faces in your house in those days?

He was posted to many places and he made few friends anywhere he was. But the late Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu was close to him. They were good friends. Odumegwu-Ojukwu always visited my father any time he was in Enugu. He was one of the regular faces in our house. I did not know much about him then but I recalled he always appeared charming. He used to visit us with some of his beautiful female friends. Even as a young child, I recognised that the women were beautiful.

I remember that in 1966 when my father became the first military governor of the old Western Region, he was the one who took Odumegwu-Ojukwu’s father to the University College Hospital, Ibadan, for treatment when he took ill. My father did not keep many friends.

When he became governor, how comfortable was his family?

There was no luxury of any sort. He was a lieutenant-colonel and a car was attached to him. As an officer, he had privileges but there was nothing extraordinary.

How did he like to dress apart from wearing his military regalia?    

My father liked to wear native attire. He often wore clothes made from damask material. I later got to know that only privileged people wore clothes made from the material.

Was he into any sports?

Yes, he played hockey and lawn tennis. I learnt how to play lawn tennis from him.

What was his favourite drink?

He drank beer most times.

What was his favourite food?

He liked pounded yam with vegetable soup spiced with dried fish and shrimps.

What kind of music did he listen to?

Nigerian artistes were not many at that time. But he listened to King Sunny Ade’s songs in those days. He also enjoyed some western songs. He listened to the British Broadcasting Corporation too.

Where were you during the second coup in the country which claimed his life?

It was on July 29, 1966, I was at Christ’s School, Ado-Ekiti. I could recall that it was a Friday because I was studying for my final examination then. The following day was a Saturday and I was listening to a portable radio which my father gave me when I heard the news that there was a coup in Ibadan, Oyo State a day before. I also heard that the Governor of the Western Region, Adekunle Fajuyi and the Head of State, Maj.Gen Johnson Agunyi-Ironsi were kidnapped. I was not bothered because I knew that my father’s men loved him well.

I could not imagine anybody trying to hurt him. It was later that some of my father’s relations came to the school to see me. I was surprised because they had never visited me in school prior to that time. I did not even know that my mother had travelled to Ibadan on Friday. There were stories about my father’s activities in the Congo that his men were ready to follow him anywhere because of his bravery. He also told me that some people believed that his swagger stick had magical powers which protected him from the bullets of his enemies.

He once told me that when he was in England on training, he saw that many people carried one swagger stick or the other and that was when he started using a swagger stick. Among the stories he told us was when he was in the Congo. The driver refused to start the vehicle on the excuse that my father forgot something. He said that day he did not take his swagger stick along and the driver together with his team felt he was leaving his powers behind. He told me that the driver did not start the vehicle until his swagger stick was brought. My father was a fearless soldier. He always placed service above self. That was exactly what he did in Ibadan that fateful day. My mother later came back home distraught. Maj. Gen. Adeyinka Adebayo (retd) who later took over as the governor of the Western Region was very supportive to our family during the period of Fajuyi’s death. In all, we thank God for being there all these years.

At what point did the reality of his death dawned on you?      

I was in school when the Head of State, Gen. Yakubu Gowon (retd) wrote to us that the government had recovered the body of my father. As I read the letter, tears trickled down my eyes because that was when the reality of his death hit me.

How has it been coping as an orphan?

It has been rough no doubt especially when my father died. My father was very prudent and his gratuities were pulled together to see his children through school. Many people actually thought we were on scholarship then.

How do you remember him annually?

We used to gather at the Fajuyi Park in Ado-Ekiti to remember him. But we had stopped doing that. Every July, we now hold a memorial church service for him and my mother, who, also incidentally died in July.

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Dad loves tweeting — El-Rufai’s son

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Bello, one of the sons of former FCT Minister and Kaduna State Governor-elect, Mallam Nasir El-Rufai, tells ARUKAINO UMUKORO about his father’s political journey

Please tell us a bit about yourself.

My name is Bello El-Rufai. I’m a communications consultant. I’m a son of Mallam Nasir El-Rufai. I schooled in Togo and later went to Atlantic College, Wales, UK, where I obtained my International Baccalaureate diploma. Then, I went to a liberal arts college in Massachusetts, US. Afterwards, I went to Georgetown University, US, for my master’s degree.

Has your dad always been a politician?

No, he has not. He got involved in the public sector in 1999 when former President Olusegun Obasanjo appointed him as the Director General of the Bureau of Public Enterprises. Before then, he was a private businessman. He was also a former Minister of the Federal Capital Territory. He was recently elected as the governor of Kaduna State.

Can you describe some particular interesting experiences growing up?

We had very many interesting experiences while growing up. I grew up in Kaduna. We moved to Jos much later. Then, we moved to Abuja when my father joined the public service. We took family trips regularly. For example, we used to go to a place called the Hilltop Hotel in Jos. We also used to visit Jakaranda, a resort in Kaduna.

How do people react when they hear your surname?

I guess the reaction depends on the people in question. My friends don’t see it that way. But, some other people react, either positively or negatively. Some people come to me and tell me they are inspired by my father. I get looks from those that don’t like the name, but I wouldn’t say I have been approached in a negative way due to my surname.

Would you say your father’s name has opened doors for you?

It certainly has. I would say his name has opened doors in terms of my exposure to stakeholders both in the public and private sectors. It has been more positive and it is not just restricted to Nigeria.

Can you share some of those experiences?

In my sophomore year, I worked at the National Assembly, in the office of the Chief Whip. He is the current Deputy Speaker, House of Representatives, Hon. Emeka Ihedioha. I wouldn’t have had that opportunity if it wasn’t for my father. But with all humility, I think my CV is good enough.

In your younger days, how did he discipline his children whenever they erred?

It depends on the wrong one did. I could recall when something really bad would attract a serious punishment. But most times, he is a talker. He would make you realise what you did was wrong and life goes on.

Did he spare the rod?

Yes, he did. He has used it before, but on very few occasions. I think he used it on me once. On hindsight, I deserved it.

Your father is now the Governor-elect of Kaduna State. He has always been vocal about national and political issues. How would you describe him as a father?

He is a great father and a relaxed person. He is down-to-earth. He is not your stereotypical ‘Nigerian’ parent. I’m not stereotyping all Nigerian parents because I really don’t know all Nigerian parents, but my relationship with my father is, to an extent, liberal. I can talk to him about anything. We laugh and we chat a lot about things. I know a lot of my friends do not relate like this with their parents. He is not materialistic; the only thing that excites him are technological gadgets, such as the new iPhone, or a new computer. He is not into watches or shoes. He is quite simple. He is hard working too and he puts 100 per cent into everything he does. Personally, I believe he will do the same when he is sworn in as governor of Kaduna State, by the grace of God. I also hope the people of Kaduna State will support him and be patient with him to uplift our state. We will certainly do the same as a family in terms of encouraging him.

Your father wrote a book, the Accidental Public Servant, how did he react to what people said about it, especially his critics?

He said those who had a different version could go ahead and write their own book. It’s a free country. The reason why the book took many people by surprise is that most Nigerian public servants do not write about their experiences, and disclose what they learnt while in public service. I think young people have a lot to learn from their mistakes and successes. But many were shocked by the fact that he disclosed a lot. On another note, I think more leaders should write about their experiences in public service, like former President Olusegun Obasanjo’s My Watch.

Your father uses the social media frequently. Is he the one responsible for his tweets and Facebook posts?

Most of it, yes. He tweets himself certainly. He also has curators that help him with the content once in a while. But I would say, during the pre-campaign period, 90 per cent of the content on his Facebook, Twitter page and his website, el-rufai.org, were created and pushed out by him. He is really active online. He tweets regularly. Now, whether that will change when he becomes governor, I do not know, and I’m interested in finding out.

Can you recollect the moment he won the election and got a call from the current Kaduna State governor, Mukhtar Yero?

In all honesty, I was not there. He took the call from His Excellency, Governor Yero, in his campaign office. And from what Mallam told me, it was just a normal conversation. He thanked the governor for the phone call and he prayed for a smooth transition. One must commend the governor as well for the call. It certainly enriches the democratic process. President Goodluck Jonathan started it and it blew across the country.

They call your father ‘Mai Rusau,’ in Kaduna State. What was the genesis of the name?

Mai Rusau, which means ‘the demolisher,’ was a name the Peoples Democratic Party campaign organisation tried to attack him with during the campaign, by claiming that he was coming to Kaduna State to demolish houses. Unfortunately, the people of the state embraced that name and started calling him the ‘demolisher of the PDP,’ and that the demolisher would further develop the state. It’s a beautiful irony.

Some of his critics still claim he might also demolish houses like he did in Abuja, the Federal Capital Territory. What did he tell you about that?

I think when he is eventually sworn in as governor, he will have to see the facts on the ground first. Then, he will consult with his advisers and commissioners, and take the best decisions. He is not committed to demolishing houses. Like he said, Abuja is different from Kaduna. What he has told me is that what Kaduna needs right now are better hospitals, schools etc. The main focus for Kaduna is social development and tackling poverty. But for a clear answer, I’d have to refer you to him or his manifesto.

He was quite critical of the administration of President Goodluck Jonathan. What did he tell you about his criticisms?

He was a harsh critic of President Jonathan, as were many people, including myself, but I do not think it was personal. Many people saw how our country was going in the wrong direction and it was just quite difficult to contain one’s emotions when you have a situation where many people have been displaced from their homes and about 15,000 people have died from the insurgency. I think a lot of emotions might have led to criticisms that many Nigerians considered to be exaggerated or out of place. But, I’m not the one to explain the nature of his criticisms. In fact, I’m the wrong person to do it, because I was equally a harsh critic of President Jonathan.

What are your father’s hobbies?

He loves table tennis. He is very good at it. He loves to read. Our entire family sometimes sit down at the table just to read. He has a very extensive library. He is a book addict. He likes reading autobiographies. He also enjoys spending quality time with us, his children. And of course, he loves tweeting.

What are his likes and dislikes?

He likes straightforward and talented people, regardless of where they are from or their religion. If you come to him with a brilliant idea, he would listen to it and give his full support. He says young people must harness their potential. He doesn’t like dishonesty. He can’t stand that. That might explain why he is vocal about challenging the status quo in the country, because to a certain extent, the status quo is a dishonest lifestyle. That explains his anger towards the system.

Your dad comes across as a very passionate person. Some of his critics have alleged that he is a religious fanatic, especially after a controversial tweet on Christianity. Is he really a fanatic?

My father is certainly not a fanatic. He believes that one’s religion is between one and God. One cannot judge a person because of that person’s religion or tribe. His tweet about Christianity was a retweet. For those that don’t know Twitter that much, if somebody posts content, and I retweet it, I’m not the one that said it. So, a retweet is different from posting content. I think it is essential to clarify that. Also, the election results from Kaduna State vindicated him (that he is not a fanatic). Voters in Southern Kaduna who are mostly Christians came out to vote for him en masse because they know he will perform, they know he is just and will be honest with them, and he certainly is. I laugh when some people online say my father is a fanatic. It’s ridiculous. He’s not the type. That’s was how some people tried to bring down Gen. Muhammadu Buhari (retd.) that he was a fanatic, but it was totally baseless. My dad has worked very well with Christians. The people who trump the religion card do it to divide us, but ultimately what matters to leaders such as Gen. Buhari (retd.), my father, the likes of the Fasholas, the Oby Ezekwesilis, and many more, is performance, it’s not what God one decides to worship. That is one’s choice at the end of the day.

Would you say your dad has a thick skin towards criticisms?

Yes, he does. One has to. Even the comments I read online sometimes has made me develop a thick skin. Some people just insult one baselessly.

Is your dad a social person?

Not really. He’s not a party type or the event going type. I got married recently and he was there. He was very happy and proud. Although he is not the party-type, he is a good conversationalist. He could sit with you and have a good conversation.

Being a busy man, how does he create time for family?

He does his best. He maintains a very good relationship with us. There was a time I came to see him and told him I needed to talk to him, he left the room and it was just the two of us, we talked about many things. We are very close. I can discuss anything with my father. He does the same with all my siblings.

Did he influence your career choices or encourage you or your siblings to go into politics?

No, he didn’t. I studied International Relations. It was only natural. The el-Rufais is not a household where one says, ‘I want him to be a mechanical engineer,’ no, it doesn’t work like that.

How would you describe his relationship with your mum?

They have known each other since they were 16. They were friends before they got married. They have a very good relationship.

What is his favourite food?

I know what his least favourite food is, but as for his favourite, I really don’t know. I would rather not say his least favourite food though.

Does he have a favourite drink?

None that I know of. But he likes freshly squeezed orange juice. I don’t know if that is his favourite drink.

Your father was once alleged to have ties with Boko Haram. How did he react to this allegation?

He just shrugged it off. It was obvious he didn’t have any ties with Boko Haram. But the irony of it was that during that period when his critics accused him and the All Progressives Congress of that, the question some of us asked was, if the APC was funding Boko Haram and the PDP was in government, then why wouldn’t they question them, arrest them and charge them to court? It was a baseless accusation. It was very unfair to tag opposition leaders as the people behind Boko Haram, when everyday somebody was dying from the insurgency. It was quite tragic.

Your sister passed on a few years ago. How has your father dealt with the loss?

God gives and God takes. When God gives, one celebrates, and when He takes, one prays for guidance, and for patience, because one can’t question the will of God. So, ultimately, a Muslim must come to terms with death, as something that is inevitable and is a part of life. But, it was tough because he’s always been close to my sister. Later, I also lost my brother; he was close to him too. I can’t imagine what he and my mother have had to go through.

How has the family dealt with it?

Well, it’s tough. Personally, I have not gotten over it. I pray for them on a daily basis. But there is nothing special about the el-Rufais; we are just a family like any other family. Other families have lost siblings too. All we can do is to pray for the soul of the dead. And I think that’s what he continues to do on a daily basis.

Did he plan to run for governorship in Kaduna State?

It doesn’t work like that. I think I and others talked about him running for governorship before he thought of running. His main goal was to ensure that Gen. Buhari won the 2015 presidential elections and was elected as president. But certainly we, as a family, were all excited when he was elected as governor.

As a former FCT minister, how do you think he will perform as Kaduna State governor?

I think he has learnt from his experience as FCT minister. It was eight years ago. He has learnt more, and he still has the same principles he had back then. But then, Kaduna is totally different from Abuja. It’s a totally different dynamic. I am very optimistic, like the people of Kaduna, that he will perform well. He is a competent man, and a compassionate father, but I also think the people of Kaduna, Nigerians, and Gen. Muhammadu Buhari himself know that there are tasks ahead; there is a lot of work to do. While it is good to be optimistic, it is even better to be cautiously optimistic. But, I have no doubt that he will see to the development of Kaduna State.

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Dad was once an Eyo masquerader — Alao Aka-Bashorun’s daughter

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Abimbola is one of the children of the late law activist and a former President of the Nigerian Bar Association, Chief Alao Aka-Bashorun. She talks about her father’s life as a defender of the oppressed with GBENGA ADENIJI

P lease briefly introduce yourself.

I am Abimbola, a daughter to the late legal luminary and rights activist, Alao Aka-Bashorun. I studied Social Work at the City of London Polytechnic and Anglia Polytechnic, United Kingdom. I also did a degree in Early Years. I was a social worker for over 15 years in England but I now participate actively in politics in Nigeria. I belong to the All Progressives Congress party.

What memories of your father can you remember?

He was a loving father but very strict. He believed so much in educating his children. He would risk anything to ensure the best of education for his children. He made sure we attended good schools rather than him building houses. My father did not lead a life of flamboyance because he was more interested in the education of his children. Once we finished secondary education in Nigeria, he tried to make us go abroad to study.

Did he not encourage his children to study law like he did?

My father encouraged his children to study law but he did not force the discipline on any of us. I never liked law anyway and I cannot say why I do not have interest in it. But like I said earlier, he wanted some of us to study law. I have a sister who studied law. I think I followed in the footsteps of my father’s elder sister who was a social worker. She was first a secretary and I also followed in that path too.

You said he was strict, what was his method of punishing any erring child?

If any child did anything wrong when he was going out, he would address the matter when he returned home later in the day. The child who misbehaved would have known that he or she was in trouble for that day.

The only thing that could save such a child was if a visitor came and pleaded on the his or her behalf. I used to do a lot of things wrong and he would mete out a punishment to me. He could ask me to kneel down, close my eyes and raise up my hands. Whenever any erring child was serving the punishment he gave, he liked to be eating cooked crabs or watching the news. But his eyes would also intermittently be watching the child to be sure he or she was serving the punishment well. He had a horse whip and used it to beat any of us that misbehaved. I was very weak in mathematics and if I was not able to solve the mathematical problems he gave me, I knew I was in trouble that day. He also punished us if he came back from the court and saw us playing when we should be in our rooms reading.

Did he create time for his family?

Yes, even though he was very busy, he created time to take his family out. I remember that he used to take us to the Takwa Bay Beach in Lagos to have fun. During Easter periods, he would take us to Badagry. His friend was the king of Badagry at that time. He also took us to the Ikoyi Club to enjoy ourselves. He was a good father to be with and we enjoyed going out with him. On Sundays, we were always at one swimming pool or the other in Lagos to learn swimming or play by the poolside. He always brought gifts for us whenever he travelled abroad.

How did he relax at home?

He had some friends who used to come to the house and they used to have good discussions. Mr. Femi Falana, was always in our house then because he worked with my father in his law firm. While we were growing up, I recall that my father used to slaughter rams during id-el-kabir. We would be asked to give some food and some pieces of meat to his Christians friends. We were always eager to run the errands to the homes of his friends like Benjamin Adekunle and Chief Ayo Adebanjo because we would be given some money when returning.

Did you ever watch him in court sessions?

Yes, I did many times. When I finished my secondary education, I did not gain admission into tertiary institution immediately. There was a day he came home and took me to the High Court in Lagos to work. He said it would help me to gain some work experience instead of staying at home. I worked as a junior clerk in the Registry’s Office. While there, I saw him many times arguing cases in the court. I liked the way he argued his points and envied his posture. But that did not make me to want to study law. There was a day he heard me telling a friend that ‘lawyers are liars.’ He jokingly called me and said, ‘Bimbo, so lawyers are liars? That is the profession I use in feeding and sending you to school.’

How did his family react when he became the president of the Nigerian Bar Association from 1987 to 1989?

We were very proud of him because at that time, he became a celebrity. The position however did not change him a bit. He continued with what he believed in and remained focus. If anything, the position energised him to do more for his colleagues and advance the society better.

How did his family handle the challenges associated with his radical posture against military rule?

Some of us were abroad at that time and did not witness most of the challenges he faced because he was antagonistic to military rule. Some of my younger siblings and step mother in Nigeria then were the ones who witnessed most of what happened. But when my father came to England in 1995, I noticed that he was sick. We had to ensure that he visited some clinics to run some tests.

Was his family not worried about his life of activism at that time?

No, we were really not worried because we knew it was part of him. He always wanted a just society where equity and justice would be the guiding principles. When I was growing up, I knew my father to be fearless. Some of my siblings have also taken the path of activism so as to demand good governance and make the rulers accountable to the ruled.

What was his favourite food?

He loved fresh fish, okro soup and crabs. He loved seafood.

What was his favourite drink?

He enjoyed drinking a bit of beer whenever he was with his friends.

How sociable was he?

My father was very sociable. He enjoyed attending parties organised by the social clubs he belonged. He was a member of the Yoruba Tennis Club.

What opportunity has your father’s name brought to you?

When I was in Nigeria, there was a school I wanted to enroll into. The principal gave me all the necessary assistance having identified who my father was. I get some special treatments from people who often acknowledge the ideals of my father while he was alive.

One day I was in Osun State for a project I wanted to finalise its execution when I met some people. Upon knowing that Alao Aka-Bashorun was my father, they offered me a great assistance regarding the project. They told me my father was their lawyer and a great man who helped them a lot while he was alive. I am happy that my father led a good life and was a brilliant lawyer. He told me that he initially wanted to study mathematics when he travelled to England. But there were two papers among the ones he passed at once which surprised a Ghanaian friend he met there. He said his friend told him that he managed to pass the two courses before my father came to England. Hence, because the courses were related to law, he advised him to study law instead which he did. He later studied Industrial Relations. My father also told me that the late celebrated novelist, Chinua Achebe, taught him before he (Aka-Bashorun) went to England to study.

In England, he also became friends with some fellow students like Kwame Nkrumah. When he returned home, he did not initially practise law. He was farming in Badagry until his elder brother died. He started practising law shortly after the death of his brother to have a regular income to cater for the children he left behind.

Was he into sports?

Yes, he played football when he was studying at Eko Boys High School, Lagos. When he was young, he partook in Eyo festival and was an Eyo masquerader. He also enjoyed watching football and boxing.

Where were you when he died?

I was in England when he died. That day, we were holding a party in England. I was on the way home from where I went to purchase some things for the event when one of my siblings in Nigeria called me to say that my father had passed on. I had to stop the car immediately. I was devastated. I used to talk to my father on the phone before the sad occurrence. He was ill and that made me to sometimes visit Nigeria to see how he was faring.

How does his family remember him every year?

The Ikeja Chapter of the NBA holds what it tags the ‘Alao Aka-Bashorun Annual Memorial Lecture.’ The family also participates in the programme. We are grateful to the Lagos State Government that named a Recreational Park and Garden in Gbagada Phase II after him.

What can you say you learnt from him?

I learnt integrity and humility from my father. He was a man of integrity and very humble. He could prostrate for anybody and he treated all individuals with dignity and respect.

How did he like to dress?

He always wore his wig and gown from Monday to Friday. He also wore English dresses but wore native attire on weekends. He loved to dress simply.

What was his favourite car brand?

He detested flashy lifestyle. He lived modestly. I cannot remember anytime he owned a fleet of cars. I recalled that as a child, our family had a Mercedes Benz car and one other car.

Did he visit you when you were studying abroad?

Yes, he used to come to England to see all his children studying abroad at that time. He used to handle some cases abroad and he always visited. Sometimes, he could come unexpectedly to visit us.

Did he ever fear for his life because of his roles against the military at that time?

No, he did not. He always told us about his activities in Nigeria whenever he was in England. There was no time we told him to be careful because we knew he was pursuing a noble cause.

Did he tell you what the cause was all about?

Of course, we always discussed. He wanted the military to go. He said they were not governing the country well. My father believed that the country had attained a level she could govern herself without the incursion of the military.

Did he advise his children on their choice of friends?

Yes, he did. Whenever a friend visited us, he would ask us to know everything about the person after he or she had left. If he did not like the person, he would tell us and advise us to be wary of our choice of friends. He was interested in our choice of careers, partners and friends.

Why are you in politics?

I think it is the only way I can contribute my quota to the development of my country. I have been involved in social services for many years; taking care of women who experience domestic violence and children from such homes. If I am part of governance, I will be able to critically put my experience to bear on these areas.

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